Actual field medics?

[ogrejager]

You beat me to that, Jester, and is a case in point about staying out of the way if you don't know what to do.

[Jester316]

[Steve]

TC3, baby.

Strap a tourniquet on, fight the fight, and get the heck off the "x". Compromised airway? Dude's probably dead anyway. Heart stopped? Dude is day-ud, son.

And that is basically what CLS boils down to, as far as practical application. Sure, there is a bunch more to it, once you are in a safe area. But step one for bleeding from an appendage is to slap a tourniquet on the wounded limb, regardless of flow rate. Step 2 is haul a$$.

The scope of practice of a CLS is significantly greater than the scope of practice for someone with a "First Aid" / basic CPR. The scope of practice for a CLS is generally smaller than it would take to be truly useful outside of a firefight, or the immediate aftermath of a similar situation. If your scope of practice is <= a CLS (joking referred to as a Combat LifeTaker, because of how often we screw things up), you probably shouldn't be volunteering to go rooting around in bleeding people.

"Medic" is a title that is reserved for the folks who can and will snatch the life back into somebody with their bare hands in the middle of the shit, not somebody who knows which side of a band-aid has the sticky stuff on it.

Just saying, is all.

[Solid]

[Snowman]

I carry an AED in my pack like in BF3, so I'm a certed combat medic. Just gotta be careful when they lost an arm, or you could irreparably damage the wounded appendage.

[Hoff]

My opinion, as someone that's held certifications of CPR/ first aid/ whatever through EMT.

first aid/ CPR - you don't know shit (I slept through most of that "class" and still passed)
first responder - you still don't know shit
EMT-B - you know some shit (though it is kind of scary some of the people they pass) and then you start actually doing calls and realize you still don't really know shit. From that point on, knowledge of shit is gained through experience and higher education.

[DELTA0125]

So, in short if you have a branch stuck in your neck or chest or are bleeding from the aorta to just leave you there and act like I didn't see anything and the most I should do is just wisper in your ear while your dieing saying "Dont worry help is on the way jester or ogre will find you shortly" or atleast that is the just of what I am getting.
W/E if you guy's dont want help when you need it all you had to do was say so.

[LiquidSnak]

Or you could do the responsible thing, especially if it's a major trauma to the neck or chest region. You have no idea about trauma. If someone gets burned or cut and you're on hand with the proper bandage or salve and know how, go right ahead. Someone is on the ground with a bleeding branch protruding from a body part, you go bleeding find ogre, jester, or an admin, and they will come find the people that they know are properly trained.

CPR cert doesn't mean anything except for you know how to pump a guys chest. Did they also tell you that you have to keep doing it until help arrives? And that you should be around the rate of 80-100 compressions per minute? Think you're up to that after your fifteen minute class?

[DELTA0125]

[ogrejager]

First, take me off the list--it's not Jester or ogre--I'm just a firefighter, not an EMT. Granted, "just a firefighter" is a helluva lot more than "just a 15 minute class."

Second, no, don't whisper sweet nothings in the guy's ear. The best thing that even an EMT can do is dial 911.

Call. For. Backup.

Scream as loud as you can, "THIS GUY NEEDS HELP!"

[Wombat Six]

[DELTA0125]

Whatever. I am done with this thread as apparently your so called "EMT's" dont have an IQ since they would not want help at all and are only picking out parts of this thread and I can tell I would not want them anywhere near me if I were injured since they dont have the intelligence to tell the course was not some 15 minute boyscouts BS but an actual EMT-1 course that was 12 hours at our local university. I can also tell your "EMT's" are not real because all EMT's in my state would want any help they can get no matter how many people are on hand.

Admins lock this when you feel you want to thank you.

[DELTA0125]

Honestly I must say that I apparently must make another post here!
I too get a laugh out of the trolling in this thread and on this forum.
Who said that I said I was a "badass medic"? I have to say that made me laugh more than the people here with no proof but saying that they are a EMT. Also who said the 12 hour course only covered the basics which is apparently absolutly nothing but crayon drawings to bring home and put on the fridge? You do realize you put an IV needle in a vain in the back of the hand or in the inside of the elbow and not in your own eye right? You also must know how to preform a tracheotomy with hands on experiance since I apparrently know "jack shit" huh? Oh, wait I need to be an EMT for that dont I? Oh, you're seizuring out on the field sorry cant help you I am not an "EMT". I am not the immature one here just mearly repeating what you have told me you guy's want done if I run into you in the field if you are injured.

Anyways, I'm out.

[ogrejager]

[DELTA0125]

Ah, but I never said I was qualified as an EMT.
All I wanted to know was if an event host should know about my qualifications.
I dont even know how this forum can have "voted best forum" on the home page when all you guy's do is shoo away ANYONE with more qualifications than the average player.