Safety and Remote CO2- question for field/event hosts

[Mrmagoo]

Currently working on taking an LPEG and putting a gas system into it that I have designed and tested on the side over the years. The system is very simplistic and reliable (Prototype system has fired 50K+ crossman bucket bb's without a single failure of any sort). I still have my AEG but would like this for a spare due to reliability and cost while still being competitive.

The system Runs on a remote CO2 paintball tank. It's shear reliability comes at a downside of poor gas efficiency and therefore some sort of remote system is a necessity. I understand (and agree with!) the hesitation around remote CO2/HPA as FPS is easily adjustable to unsafe levels.

What it boils down to: Would adjusting the Palmers CO2 regulator to well below fps limits and than using Epoxy putty to semi-permanently lock the regulator in place work for you guys? In no way would the gun be adjustable in field with the adjustment screw filled with epoxy. Again i'm not looking for L77T pwnsor high fps rifle. I'm seeking affordable reliability and the pride of using something I designed, tested and fielded myself.

[Jmonday]

[Riddick]

No homebrews for me allowed. Especially pyro, combustables

[ogrejager]

Jmonday,

It's a freakin' Palmer regulator screwed on to a CO2 tank. Palmer's regulators have been taken into SPACE. Yes, that's a true story. It's not a jury-rigged system any more than any HPA/CO2 system is for airsoft. Other than the Polarstars, none are "stock."

Also, it's not about bringing paintball to airsoft. It's about designing a reliable airsoft gun. Kudos to Magoo. If it works well, that's awesome.

Magoo,

Spend the $15 and get a tournie lock for the regulator. Also, if you're going to do all this work, don't use CO2-just go with HPA. Finally, if your system is reliable and easy to make work, let's talk. We could market the friggin' thing. Give Polarstar some competition.

Riddick,

You allow homebrewed replicas into your games all the time. Anyone that's opened a gearbox or changed a hopup has "homebrewed" their replica. If it passes chrono, why the harsh judgement? Are you going to deny me my HPA sniper rifle because I built the system myself?

[Mrmagoo]

Ogrejager,

Did't even know about the Tournie locks- just what I am looking for. Thanks!

Jmonday,
Thank you for your opinions. Trying to feel this out.

What I was talking about was not a jerry rigged tank. Merely filling the head of a set screw in order to prevent easy adjustment with an allen key. But a lock is even better, so its a moot point on my part . Palmers are reputable regulator meant to work with CO2. Ran one before with a classic Kokusai Car-15 and never had any issues with them.

And yes- those crappy LPEG internals go where they should- the garabage. Just need the body itself.

Riddick- I understand. Thank you for your input as an event host.

[Riddick]

My homebrew statement is in reference to his topic not in general. My stance is that of safety almost 100% of the time. I personally don't feel comfortable with someone manufacturing high compression or pyrotechnics that do not have a degree/certification in those respective areas to use at my games. My position at this juncture is that if it doesn't come from a manufacturer created in that manner then its a no go if we catch it. Its not a perfect position without merit flaws or arguments but this is about what makes me feel comfortable. Airsoft companies have engineers and many do testing before releasing product into the market. Doesn't mean they are 100% safe but it most likely means that average Joe didn't create it either.

This also applies to the .01%, so I'm not going to go into a debate over it.

Good luck on your project Magoo. There's others out there that are more courageous then I.

[Jmonday]

[ogrejager]

[Mrmagoo]

[ClownBaby]

Can we see some pics?

[Matt]

I don't understand the obsession with HPA, with the exception of sniper rifles. We've been using electrics reliably for many years. If it aint broke, why fix it?

[ogrejager]

[Jmonday]

[Wisenheimer]

Bring that sucker out to Action Acres on the 31st. We'll go over it and get you squared away.

If you have home made anything you want to use in game, you simply have to bring it, show it to me, demonstrate it's operation, and if it's not up to par we can even help you with getting it working safely.

Everyone has an opinion on HPA, but the fact is to each his own. Whatever, as long as it's demonstratively safe.

[Mrmagoo]

Wisenheimer:

The field usable version will not be ready by the 31st. Just got the LPEG in the mail today, and now I need to fab a new set of internals mildly redesigned to fit inside the gun body. The Prototype version is the equivalent of attaching a barrel/hopup unit, gearbox and magazine to a board so they all function with one another. It was never intended to play with as is, merely determine if the design was sound enough to invest further time/money into making. When the final version is done ill definitely bring it out to Canby.

Matt:

For me it's simply reliability. I'm tired of having AEG's break down. Still trying to get my VFC aks-74u up and running again.

To those who argue "Don't bring paintball into airsoft". Airsoft used HPA, PROPANE and CO2 before batteries so it's not "bringing paintball into airsoft" but more "going back to the roots" . Furthermore the tanks are remote, not sticking out the back of a hideous gun. At least thats my 2 cents.