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Postby tsandersont13 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:28 pm

KingNikan wrote:
Caffeine and Rage wrote:The ARES isn't worth that much more than the UTG, in my opinion.

The MK96 from UTG has a cylinder that you can open, it's fully compatible with the Maruzen parts.

Airsoft Outlet has the 6.03 MadBull barrels for the L96, as well as a metal cylinder/spring guide/spring upgrade kit, which will put you at about 530-550 when combined. Get a good bucking and install everything right and you'll be golden.

I'm willing to go all out on this. So I'll probably start with a UTG and then put all the money into upgrades.
That would be smart , I've just recently purchaced a UTG and it is actually not bad stock, however I do plan on replacing virtually all internals with PDI parts. I have high hopes for this gun.
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Postby Cursed_fenix » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:00 am

Hey KA-BAR not sure if you have done this or not but try throwing in a Stock TM VSR or pistol bucking. I recently did some test and actually get the most consistency out of the stock TM bucking compared to virtually any other bucking you can buy and especially a stock TSD bucking.
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Postby KA-BAR » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:10 am

either i have gotten really lucky, or just havent noticed a difference in my bucking preformance.

all my builds have been really consistant so far.

good suggestion though.
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Postby Merchant » Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:19 am

Cursed_fenix wrote:Hey KA-BAR not sure if you have done this or not but try throwing in a Stock TM VSR or pistol bucking. I recently did some test and actually get the most consistency out of the stock TM bucking compared to virtually any other bucking you can buy and especially a stock TSD bucking.


Have you done any comparisons to Firefly's?
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Postby Falcon7 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:52 pm

Having searched the internet, AP topics/ads, and various other shady corners of the internet and not wanting to start another: "Hurr Durr I'm a new snipor" topic:
My teammate is in the process of upgrading his L96 and for the life of me neither of us can find a tightbore barrel for under $100, which is silliness. Would anyone care to offer a place where one might find the elusive and economically convenient tightbore for this gun?
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Postby Jester316 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:58 pm

A good barrel will cost a good chunk of money. My current tight bore barrel cost more than the base gun it's in. Steel will be better than brass. 6.01 will be better than 6.03.

That being said, look for the Madbull Black Python APS2 barrel. Should be on the cheaper side, and an improvement over the stock barrel.
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Postby silentscope » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:08 pm

hey, some one posted a sawed-off m700 in the ads. Question, dose the shorter barrel modify the acuracy or anything? and if it dosn't, would i be able to get a custom tight bore barrel for that? case if that would work, that would be an awsome shits and giggles gun! thanks.
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Postby YOGI » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:26 pm

Shorter barrel= Less accuracy
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Postby Merchant » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:36 pm

YOGI wrote:Shorter barrel= Less accuracy


While i am not saying this is not true, a shorter barrel doesn't affect accuracy as much as you would think. My TM G-spec has a short barrel and I know I have gotten kill from 200-250 feet or so.

There is also a theory that once you get so long a barrel your accuracy will decrease due to the barrel vibration because of the piston hitting the cylinder head. You also up the chance for imperfections with a longer barrel as well. If there is the slightest defect it can throw off you accuracy. Long story shot, for the best bang for your buck I'd go with a PDI 6.05.

Also, Jester, I have come across many airsoft snipers and techs that would argue that a 6.05 lends better accuracy than a 6.01. Check this thread out that I started:

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=189523
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Postby CBeran » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:37 pm

In my experience shorter barrels do not inherently mean lesser accuracy. VSR 10s only have 430mm barrels and you can achieve pretty amazing accuracy with that platform. As far as a sawed off M700, you will have more issues dealing with the gas inconsistency than with the length of the barrel.
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Postby KA-BAR » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:37 pm

YOGI wrote:Shorter barrel= Less accuracy


please dont give out shitty info.

My well MB03 ( G-spec clone) has a 430mm inner, and reaches out just as far and on target as my SVD with a 640mm inner barrel.

please spend alot more time with bolt actions before you even think about giving anyone advise on this subject matter.


all those responces in less then a minute.

cant read the link merchant.
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Postby YOGI » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:33 pm

KA-BAR wrote:
YOGI wrote:Shorter barrel= Less accuracy


please dont give out shitty info.

My well MB03 ( G-spec clone) has a 430mm inner, and reaches out just as far and on target as my SVD with a 640mm inner barrel.

please spend alot more time with bolt actions before you even think about giving anyone advise on this subject matter.


all those responces in less then a minute.

cant read the link merchant.

Sorry about giving out false info. That's just the expirience I've had.
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Postby Seagreen » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:35 pm

Shorter barrel= Less accuracy


In my humble experience, in general....yes, but that is when you are talking about SBR's that are AEGs.

A barrel that is 430mm will stabilize the round reasonably enough to keep you on target (depending on velocity/bb weight/atmospheric conditions). The longer barrel "can" improve the round stability and trajectory, but I wouldn't trade ease of movement/drag for a 700mm barrel.

I built a KJ m700 and cut the barrel down to a realistic length. It was HPA/CO2 and was easily as accurate as the full length counterpart. (it ended up at 510mm...or 480mm...I don't remember)

Regardless, there is merit in the correction that KA-BAR is grilling you on, but he just sucks at being polite about it. In some respects you are correct, but in others specifically this whole single shot forum most blanket statements concerning parts and accuracy are up to serious debate.
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Postby KA-BAR » Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:44 pm

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thanks for admitting partial fault kiddo.
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Postby Jester316 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:21 pm

I love my 510mm barrel in my TSD M700. Of course it was made by one of the most respected and knowledgable bolt turners in the community...
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