California Senate Bill 798, what can we do?

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[Ivan Daylovich™]

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here.... this shotgun is REAL.





its painted bright fire engine red and royal blue. it looks lie a toy gun. if a cop becomes desensitized by bright colors...and belives that if he sees them its a harmless replica or a toy... it could cost him his life. it doesnt matter if its bright and friendly looking a cop just might shoot your kid for pointing it at him. why, because the kid is a idiot shazaam and belives its just a toy, and he is playing cops and robbers, and he wants to be robert dinero for the day and play heat. either way its a cop who winds up dead on poor judgment or a kid who winds up dead on poor judgement.


nuff said.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Exactly. So what's the point of making fake guns look like that?

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i say stricter laws and penalties should be placed on parents for negligence and no parental supervision. you cant punish the child. so i say punish the parents with heavy fines and possible criminal charges and possible loss of custody.

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Why can't you punish the child?

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because once they turn 18....its all expunged and taken off the record.

unless the do a hienous crime and hold up a bank with a airsoft gun, or scare someone so bad they go into cardiac arrest....or anything else malicious. they should be held accountable.


but i say double jepordy and penalize the parent also. then maybe parents will change the way they parent their kids....and we wont have to change how we play a game with replica firearms as adults.

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Pointing anything at a cop can get you shot. reaching for anything suddenly can get you shot. The problem isn't toy guns. The problem is doing dumb things around cops.

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People can take ownership of this game and community, or not. Instead of bitching about stoopid kids with improper guidance, man up and show them the ropes. Nanny state? Because theres been how many examples of effective nanny state approaches from the US government? Take your time answering I know it may take awhile to find. like any other additional government oversight and regulation, it most likely will stop nothing and simply add another level of stupidity. The best idea is to never encourage, even by proxy, stupid legislation, its hard enough preventing it in the first place.

This attitude of shazaam kids, blame the parents, I'm not their nanny causes the exact problems y'all are bitching about. You are worse than the parent that didn't teach them because you DO know better. This is an airsoft community, as in we should try and help eachother, not just ostracize or falsely blame the youngins. I've seen easily as many stupid adults as I have kids. Ive seen more kids just lookin to have a fun time at a game, than I have adults with there easily bruised ego.. You can't stop stupid but it is a moronic, simplistic, and ultimately, *wrong* answer to simply use minors as the scapegoat. Take a look at yourselves and ask, what have *I* done to better the community the hobby and those looking to get into it? It takes more than simply calling your hits or knowing how to build and operate a toy sniper rifle.