Replica Gun City Ordinance Poll for Portland

[Orwell]

Problem is, you need rocket science to get reelected. This isn't about saving kids or stopping criminals. If one of those gets accomplished along the way, that's all well and good. It's about votes.

EDIT: Watched the video. Nice! I gotta say, since reading your arguments, Matt, I agree with you. This kind of ordinance can't hurt much, and it will potentially help keep children (and grown-up children, :P ) safer. I harbor only mild, 1 in 1 billion odds scenarios for concerns now, which means I'll shut up about this being a problem.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

[Matt]

[DJ]

[Ivan Daylovich™]

[NFS_Shadow]

yes that is essentially what i meant ivan ^ the people who will obey this are already probably wise enough to be smart about transporting and other aspects of airsoft guns in city limits.

Matt what i meant is i'm in high school, and while i always try to be as safe as possible when transporting my replicas or even shooting them in my back yard (i live in the country but still i'm careful) i know of incidents in my own town where kids have been stupid enough to take their airsoft guns out and walk around with them in public, i've even heard of cases where people have shot at cars with airsoft guns. This is the reason why we are misunderstood (or so i believe) the kids that have their parents buy them replicas and never truly are involved with our community. They don't share the same values, and love for the sport/hobby as we do. Correct me if i'm wrong but i once heard that to even own a replica in i think Ireland, you have to be involved in the airsofting community on a regular basis and attend a certain amount of organized events per year. While a system like this would greatly reduce the amount of new blood among the ranks it would solve our problem, i'm not for something like that though. We do however need stricter rules regarding the purchase of replicas. Just a random idea but what about the possibility of say a course to go over the aspects and laws regarding replica ownership during which a complete background check could be performed, like a hunters safety course. Any thoughts about something like that? just throwing it out there

[STRIK3]

KOIN 6 news aired a followup story on this issue and our very own AONW got its 15 minutes of fame

[McNair]

I noticed they were smart enough to keep childs hidden away.

[Matt]

Good job AONW. Wow they really like using the word "Ban" a lot. Beaverton says "it's not a ban." But KOIN6 is all "BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN."

I can agree that there are already laws in place regarding firearms, but Airsoft and Firearms are going to need their separation of Church and State here pretty soon. If we keep going down the firearms road we're going to have even more regulations that come with firearms. There's good things that could come out of Airsoft being recognized as it's own thing. Parents who aren't up on firearms still have kids who want Airsoft guns, their first thought might not be to go brush up on the local firearms laws. Why would they? Retailers and manufacturers call them "Toys." So it's just a toy? No need to worry about laws, right? But if an ordinance names Airsoft specifically, it's a different story.

[NFS_Shadow]

I shipped a g96 to a buyer in California yesterday (yes i got the money first) and any time i've shipped a airsoft gun you will run into problems if you refer it to as a gun. If i however "classify" it as a toy i can ship it without issue. I like matts idea of airsoft being completely separate from firearms. They do get bunched into the classification of "guns" i even referred to it as a gun above, of course they look like guns (the point) but if you go to a store they are sold with the real firearms.

[Osprey]

Just last Sunday I caught six kids(about 9 to 12 years old) playing with the replicas in a parking lot of the church. Next to the High School in Molalla. It also happens my house sit right across from the street from the Church and the High School. Long story short I walked over to these kids(I put on Eye pro first), and I told them what they were doing wasn't save. I told them to ether stop or go some where else that was not in the public view. I did get some sarcastic responses, but I didn't leave until they left. To them I might of look like an complete asshole. The good news they stopped. Bad news is for how long. You would think that the parents would think letting there kids play near a high school with airsoft guns was a bad idea.

Now I know that getting them to stop was probably none of my business, but getting them to stop now. Could make them think twice on doing it again in the future. But lets just say they an up doing it again. The next person to stop them isn't a friendly neighbor, but a cop with a gun.

[Pork]

[spazgar]