Not shooting gun.

[Sneakerwave]

I have an Echo 1 full metal m4. I was just shooting today and i was on semi, and i kept pulling trigger. then it didnt have usual tension on trigger and it wouldnt fire anymore. I tried full auto and no difference. any suggestions? i tried different batteries and made sure nothing was jammed.

[Patrick750]

maybe bad magazines. You may have a hop up problem. Split the upper and lower receiver and make sure your hop up isn't f***ed up.

[Wicked One]

if it was clicking and not firing it could just be a locked up spring. are you sure thet batteries were fully charged if they were then idk what else to say other than take airsoft750s advice.

[Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I]

1st - look at your fuse. is your fuse burned out?
2nd - if your fuse is okay, when you pull your trigger, can you hear the motor straining inside the grip?
- if the motors straining, odds are your piston is locked back. Version 2 type gearboxes have a rude problem with locking at inopportune moments.

Pull the grip off, reach up and pull the anti-reversal latch down with a small hook, being careful not to damage the wiring. You may need to do this a couple times before the piston fully releases. When your battery wears down, this is more likely to happen. Its also more likely to happen when you're firing rapid semi-automatic.

Its a version 2 gearbox, if this is whats happened, there isnt a cure. Its just one of those things that happens.

And its not something that a misaligned hop-up, or a "bad magazine" is going to cause. Its a flaw in the version 2 gearbox design.

[pappyjump]

sorry airsoft750 but im sure it isnt a mag problem if the gun isnt even cycling. check to see if you spring is locked up.

[glockmeister]

problems, if it just stopped shooting with no response or noise you may have 2 issues. 1. fuse is blown, if it is buy a new one, no biggie. 2. check all wires too make sure there are no places where it can short circut. 3. a metal peice in the gearbox may have broken. echo 1 is known for that peice in their version 2 gearboxes too have that problem because it is a weak peice of metal. if so, go too ASONW and jesse can fix it. If you don't want too take advice from a 13 year old fine, but I have had the same problem with my echo 1 m4.

[Patrick750]

sorry airsoft750 but im sure it isnt a mag problem if the gun isnt even cycling. check to see if you spring is locked up.

mis read the post. i was going to suggest wiring or a blown fuse but apparently i was beat to it. Before you spend money at AONW go and get a new fuse (these are super cheap) and if it doesn't work then take it to AONW, unless you wanna be ballsy and look at the wiring your self.

[glockmeister]

yeah check the wiring not inside the gearbox just looking at all the available wires you can look at with opening anything. And fuses are pretty cheap, I can give you 1 for free if need be. I could meet you at a skirm. If you cant find anything, go to ASONW

[glockmeister]

1st - look at your fuse. is your fuse burned out?
2nd - if your fuse is okay, when you pull your trigger, can you hear the motor straining inside the grip?
- if the motors straining, odds are your piston is locked back. Version 2 type gearboxes have a rude problem with locking at inopportune moments.

Pull the grip off, reach up and pull the anti-reversal latch down with a small hook, being careful not to damage the wiring. You may need to do this a couple times before the piston fully releases. When your battery wears down, this is more likely to happen. Its also more likely to happen when you're firing rapid semi-automatic.

Its a version 2 gearbox, if this is whats happened, there isnt a cure. Its just one of those things that happens.

And its not something that a misaligned hop-up, or a "bad magazine" is going to cause. Its a flaw in the version 2 gearbox design.

There never is one of those things that just happens and there isnt a cure for an echo 1 m4. You can replace every bitty part on those things..... And you can fix most parts.

[Catch22]

Are you really going to argue with Alex about this? He's been working on AEG's for almost as long as you've been alive.

[Sneakerwave]

there is no straining noise in it when i pull the trigger. No noise or very much tension either. so does that mean fuse?

[Nocte]

there is no straining noise in it when i pull the trigger. No noise or very much tension either. so does that mean fuse?

Probably. That's good news, too.

[G36 FTW]

1st - look at your fuse. is your fuse burned out?
2nd - if your fuse is okay, when you pull your trigger, can you hear the motor straining inside the grip?
- if the motors straining, odds are your piston is locked back. Version 2 type gearboxes have a rude problem with locking at inopportune moments.

Pull the grip off, reach up and pull the anti-reversal latch down with a small hook, being careful not to damage the wiring. You may need to do this a couple times before the piston fully releases. When your battery wears down, this is more likely to happen. Its also more likely to happen when you're firing rapid semi-automatic.

Its a version 2 gearbox, if this is whats happened, there isnt a cure. Its just one of those things that happens.

And its not something that a misaligned hop-up, or a "bad magazine" is going to cause. Its a flaw in the version 2 gearbox design.

To add to this, as a 1.5 make sure the motor tabs are still connected inside the pistol grip, my AGM had a problem with vibrating them off every once in a while.

[Deleteplz]

Also, you keep saying something about the trigger pull being different from before. Is it easy? Is there far less resistance than before? If so, you may have a blow fuse, and stuck trigger in the wiring harness.

[Talon 1]

On a somewhat unrelated note, my friend has (or had) an Echo 1 M4 (Stag-15-l33twhatevers) and he was siting in his holo sight, when it stopped firing. Tried a different battery and nothing, not even the motor clicking. Checked the fuse, it was fine. We took apart the GB later that day and some how (still don't know how) the selector plate broke into many pieces and a small piece went inside the GB and got jammed in between the gears, and I don't know why that would have stopped all the electrical movements but for whatever reason, it did. Most everyone I know personally that's had an E1 M4 has had a problem with the gearbox, specifically the selector plate or in the wiring.
Maybe we're just cursed, who knows. 0__o