VFC SCAR Question

[mangel]

So I checked around AP and the Internet and the VFC SCAR seems to be a winner. 

VFC SCAR-H: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_142&products_id=3886&osCsid=cf4thedib4ifebb25gvl99uoc7

VFC SCAR-L: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_142&products_id=2929&osCsid=cf4thedib4ifebb25gvl99uoc7

Similar guns, but with a small difference. Both version 2 gear boxes. The H has a larger mag well than the L, due to the round size difference. This gives the H a longer hop up and air seal nozzle. 

My question, will it be harder to find parts/upgrade the H due to the longer hop up and air seal nozzle. 

[Limpy]

Get a SCAR-L, mainly because finding mags will be exponentially easier and overall cheaper than if you get a SCAR-H, since the SCAR-L takes standard M4 magazines. And yes, it will be more difficult to get upgrades. Go ahead and get the SCAR-L.

Or at least that's my advice.

[Patrick750]

I agree with limpy 'bout the mag thing. If you do find a place that sells mags and have the pouches for it go ahead. The scar L is just easier.

[Voodoo Man]

Go with the MK17 just because its way more awesome.

Parts are easy to get a hold of, mags are a tad expensive though.

[mangel]

Not worried about the price of mags, I mean nobody ever said airsoft was dirt cheap. 

There seem to be conflicting opinions about the upgradability between the guns. Some say it's easy to find a longer air seal nozzle, hop up and hop up bucking for the H. Others not so much. 

I plan on eventually upgrading the whole gearbox, will it be harder to get high end parts, such as systema, for the H due to it's longer parts. 

[Snowman]

As far as I know, the MK17's only proprietary parts are the nozzle, hop-up unit, and gearbox shell.

Would you be looking for midcaps or highcaps.

[Limpy]

Agreeing with Nasty, if it's parts then get the SCAR-H.

[Voodoo Man]

I've only had my MK17 for 2 days and I don't see much of a reason to upgrade anything right away, and I got it second hand. Most of the internals are regular V2 things. Easy to replace, ASGI has the air seal nozzle by VFC so if that ever needs to be replaced you can get it there.
The mags at ASGI are WAY overpriced though, one of the few other places that has them is WGC and i don't know about their shipping prices as late. I was thinking about picking up a couple of packs from their soon though.

[mangel]

As far as I know, the MK17's only proprietary parts are the nozzle, hop-up unit, and gearbox shell.

So if the nozzle breaks I can get a new one, cool. But if the hop-up unit is proprietary that means no hop-up related upgrades?

Also, from what I've read, the SCAR-L is a standard version 2 gear box. No special shell or anything?

[Hallowground]

the mk16 uses all standard version two internals, even the pistol grip can be swapped, although i don't think you can fit the ones with the hand relief pad(that swoosh thing) the mk17 uses all version two parts except what these fine others have stated(you can do the pistol grip swap with this one too). the mk17 mags are expensive, and you have to get then in either singles or sets of three. the mag pouches are easy, all m14 mag pouches work. this could be irritating since i've never acually seen tripple or single 7.62 mag pouches. also, if you'r getting the scar-h, it's probably to stand out, and in that case i'd say to get the SSR, which i believe is also made by VFC. the only difference is a much longer upper reciever and barrel, making it a sniper support weapon. but of course if you mostly only do cqb and/or don't want to lug around the extra five pounds, then the standard mk17 will work out just fine. however, i'd still go with the mk16 over the standard mk17 for convenience and versatility(so very many different ways to pack your mags)

TLDR either go with the mk17 SSR, or the mk16.

[Jewish Ninja]

Both the Mk16 and Mk17 have the VFC split hopup (so you can't get an aftermarket hopup unit) but the bucking and all that jazz is the same. The only thing the GB really needs is a good shim job, but I don't really trust "self-shimming gears" so thats more down to personal preference. The GB shell is just a normal V2 one as well, to work with the larger mags it just has a long airseal nozzle.

Word of caution with the body pins, the capture washers on the pins that are "supposed" to stop the pins from coming all the way out get lost very easily. They still hold everything together just fine, so you don't really need to worry about it.


As far as pouches go...
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/762308singlemagpouch.aspx
http://www.tacticaltailor.com/762308doublemagpouch.aspx
http://www.skdtac.com/HSGI_TACO_Modular ... sg.227.htm
http://www.optactical.com/matr7mapoopt.html

I have all of these (sold the TT shingles when i got the Mayflower triple ones) and they are amazing. The TACO is great for all kinds of mags (SCAR-H, AK, M4 SIG, etc) and if you want faster draw mag carrier. A fair word of warning with the H mags though; on the mag by the catch cutout, theres a bump can scratch other mags when they are stuck in a pouch together. Its not a big deal if you don't mind the normal wear and tear on gear. But sheeet, some people just love that clean look...

[Jewish Ninja]

Least I don't look like a hippie fag grabbing my magwell

[Snowman]

Also, from what I've read, the SCAR-L is a standard version 2 gear box. No special shell or anything?

VFC's MK16 gearbox shell IS proprietary. The only maker of the shell is VFC. It is because VFC made the ambi-safety more complicated than it needed to be, resulting in a pain-in-the-ass to replace shell, but you shouldn't need to get a new one.