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Postby ogrejager » Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:09 am

Minerva wrote: If you think that age has any relevance to this sport you are sorely mistaken, though I do agree much can be said to how age adds to maturity. Having patience, a little mechanical know how, and spare time, does not require me to be 25.


Heh. That's exactly what I used to say when I was 17, too. Also, age has quite a lot of relevance to this sport. I don't run as fast as the kids do, for example. I'm also larger than I was at 17 so I get hit more.

I notice this thread now has a guy that used to run an airsoft shop talking about KWA's. You've looked at 3. THREE. Use your patience and spare time to learn about reliable sample sizes for a descriptive statistics to be meaningful. Paladin, how many airsoft gearboxes have you worked on?
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Postby league 4 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:56 pm

I'm probably in the triple digits by now and I still hate KWA's. Owning an airsoft store or working at one doesn't mean too much, the ones at my local store screw up A LOT and I've had to fix several of their mistakes in teammates guns from before they knew I was a tech... I'm not questioning the work of the people that posted in this thread though, I've never seen any of their work so I can't say. But, opinions are opinions.
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Postby Minerva » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:14 pm

I think spending close to $1000 of my own hard earned money on lemons is plenty large enough of a sample size for me thanks. As of yet, I haven't had many major problems with any other gearbox I've worked on. As for saying that because someone owns a shop, their opinion is the right one, I would like to direct you to a shop down in California where the technician did not know the difference between a V2 and a V7

As for the comment on age, I meant as far as the technical side of it. I don't doubt that its different being older but hell, I prefer playing with older people such as yourself, as opposed to other people my age. I can't stand immature people :?

This is only my opinion that the 2GX isn't worth it, though I will swear by their gas systems
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Postby UnHoly8807 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:48 pm

sitting here arguing about a brand is imature...all you have to say is you have had three KWAs that broke not that alll KWAs suck....

I have a sr10 that i run stock beside the bucking and barrel. i LOVE it. everything about it... I do see plenty of threads with sr10 problems but then agian not many people take the time to write a thread about how much they love a gun

op: if you want to run your new KWA but a kwa gear box... that 90$s come with a great costumer service.
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Postby Paladin101 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:10 pm

Personally I'm still a novice, maybe 3 complete gearbox constructions under my belt. However, I've been around airsoft since 98, Matt can verify that I met him back in the very early days of AP. Timmy Chang and Dwayne Dees were techs at Precision. Both have been working as airsoft techs professionally for 6+ years (Dwayne I think actually 8+) and they would agree with me. Being around airsoft for going on 13 years now and running an airsoft store you get semi-decent at trouble shooting and figuring out what systems have what issues. Obviously if you want to completely build your own gearbox you can do a much nicer job than a factory made, but KWA gearboxes are pretty damn nice off the shelf and from the majority I have seen (probably over a thousand rifles) VERY few have issues. I would estimate with KWA we had a less than 2% failure rate in 2 years. And we had several Military and LE contracts that use them as training tools. Perhaps AONW can give an estimate?

But the real issue is the gearbox shell. You have a KWA rifle, I'm fairly confident you need a KWA gearbox. I know a guy in Spokane had 2 gen 1 gearboxes break 2 winters ago and had to wait over a year for the 2gx to be released separately to get them running again. Just to note when they broke we were playing in -11 degree weather, lots of gearboxes broke that day.
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Postby Minerva » Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:50 am

-11 degrees? Holy hell..

Why is it that I'm cursed with my KWA's then?? Tell ya what, If I can find someone around with a gearbox shell, I'll cannibalize my parts and see what happens. That will be my deciding factor
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Postby Paladin101 » Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:30 pm

Minerva I'm guessing AONW has spare gearboxes in a spare parts bin you could pick up relatively inexpensively. I think your main problem will be with fit inside the receiver. Internally I don't think you will have a problem, but I've never tried it so. Your results will be interesting.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:25 pm

I buy cheap china guns that never have major problems.

I will save the cash and just buy a real gun.
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Postby blitz » Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:18 pm

wow i didnt notice there was so many replies..

i forgot to say it was the gen 1 gearbox not the 2gx
i am most likely just gonna pick up a 2gx gearbox or trade the gun for a broken ics..

i also tried sticking in a aim top gearbox to see if it would fit in there and it does not, the holes where the receiver pins go dont line up..

i took apart the gearbox today and everything is still fine in there besides the cylinder head assembly, i dont know how to tell what spring is in it.

the previous owner was inside the gearbox atleast once though because 2 of the screws on the gearbox (that hold it together) were in the wrong places
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Postby blitz » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:35 pm

got 2 broken kwa gearboxes on my hands now, both gen 1's.
i think i will fix them, sell them and go with ics's..

the biggest problem i have ran into with an ics is the tappet plate breaking.
and even if the upper does crack it is a 30$ fix for a new shell and a hell of alot easier to acquire.

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