Wanting a good M4 I can grow into

[Yinz]

Hi, I am looking to get into airsoft and have done some searching online and in shops at intermediate level m4s. So far I am torn between a G&G high velocity C16 Raider http://www.hobbytron.com/ElectricGGGC16RaiderLHighMuzzleVelocityVersionFPS420AirsoftRifle.html# or any other of the mid-level G&G M4s. Or spending a bit more and getting a KWA http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/1984-kwa-km4-ris-full-metal-rail-equipped-airsoft-aeg-rifle-w-free-sling.aspx#tab-3.

My questions....

is the KWA worth the extra cash?

will these rifles meet my desire for a good gun that is dependable and not a time and money sink for repairs?

I appreciate any help you can offer. Thank you.

[Cyclops]

On KWA you need to use their parts on most of the items in that gun. A G&G you can use what ever parts. I'd get the G&G honestly for future upgrades down the road.

[ogrejager]

On the flip side, the internals that come inside those KWA's are pretty damned tough and won't need as much replacement or upgrading.

I've owned 2 KWAs. I loved them both. They eventually failed, but I was running 11.1 lipos with the stock gun and used them hard.

[Yinz]

Thanks, it's appreciated!

[Whiplash]

I have two KWA's there great guns in my opinion ,there a little more money, but all you have to upgrade is the bucking and maybe a tight bore barrel.

[Payback]

For around the same price as the KWA, but a whole lot better gun, i would go with the echo1 platinum OEM'd by VFC http://www.evike.com/products/47236/

KWA sometimes has mag fitment issues when using mid caps.



Or, i would look at the top tech G&G's with metal bodies. http://www.evike.com/products/45352/

[Payback]

Or, i would go to the airsoft expo this weekend and look at 100's of guns new and used for the best deals.

[Mindspeed]

I would look at krytak as well. They are a new player but have been getting rave reviews.

[McNair]

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KWA sometimes has mag fitment issues when using mid caps.


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This has been my only issue with KWA AEGs as well.

Personally I am a fan of Classic Army. I've used the same one for 3 years now and it was probably 4 or 5 years old(if not older)when I picked it up. However, I don't know how the new ones are or price range. I've not looked at buying "new" AEGs in a long time. I just pick up stuff in the used market.

[ClownBaby]

Just make sure you get one with an adjustable seat post.

My answer is this. If you think you'll be into this for at least a year or two, then spend the money.
If you drop about $350 on a new gun, you'll get something real good.

As far as buying used, oh man, that can be scary. But anyone who has responded here already would be a reliable source. Not me though, I don't own enough to sell.

But all those aforementioned guns would be great choices, if money's not a factor, I'd go all the way and get the Krytak.

And if you're not dead set on an AR platform, check out the E&L AK, or the Scorpion evo.

[Cyclops]

Another note! My first gun was the G&G Top Tech 418. GREAT GUN all around. This gun came with a 2 yr warrenty which is un heard of on other guns. My warranty is now up (2 months ago) and now making it into a DMR. This gun was never in the shop for repairs. Hardest thing is find one in stock. http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... s_id=10506
If you like that style you can go with the 416. Only difference is the length of the warranty. In fact at the Expo I believe G&G will be there and they may have this gun as well as many others. GREAT place to find out some info....