Noob Alert. DMR needed

[Sahronax]

You could go with an AGM M16, and then pick up a scope for it. I know AGM isn't a prestigious airsoft company, but it has amazing accuracy for a completely stock rifle.

Also, amazing range.

[-Shifty-]

Put on a scope, TBB, and a spring upgrade and you'd be set! Keep in mind though, that 99% of the events you'll go to, will only allow DMR users to shoot semi-auto.

[God]

Alright thanks for the warning.

[DJ]

Take a look at this dawg. we have one and it will fill all of your needs ( except price) very nicely
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/ind ... ts_id=4288
shoots at 400 fps and has the accuracy and distance to do the DMR thing nicely. If the excrement hits the rotating blades you can take care of business too.

[God]

The gun looks pretty nice but for the price all I can say is Damn. But thats why I am waiting until summer so I can save up the cash

[mcintyr2]

I would get the JG G3 long version, its about 140-150$. go to red dragon airsoft (online). its a local airsoft company with great prices.

[DJ]

I would get the JG G3 long version, its about 140-150$. go to red dragon airsoft (online). its a local airsoft company with great prices.

Please read the AP reviews / pans regarding this " company" before proceeding .

[Switchback]

Please read the AP reviews / pans regarding this " company" before proceeding .

I've had great experiences with JG, but had one die in my arms yesterday. saddening; I just need a new motor though. Their MP5's and G3's are amazing. I don't know why everyone despises them so.

[Falcon7]

Please read the AP reviews / pans regarding this " company" before proceeding .

I've had great experiences with JG, but had one die in my arms yesterday. saddening; I just need a new motor though. Their MP5's and G3's are amazing. I don't know why everyone despises them so.

I've had mixed experiences with JGs. Mine worked beautifully, until I managed to break some tiny and delicate yet vital pieces (shouldn't be a problem unless you yank the wires or open the gearbox). I've seen others break down easily on the inside and outside, one brand new. Wouldn't reccommend any of the mostly plastic models.

[Sahronax]

Virtually my entire team has at some point had dealings with JG, I know of exactly one issue out of some dozen or so cases.

[Switchback]

I'd go with the JG G3. It is pretty amazing for a gun thats what, $130? Totally outclasses the Echo1.

[Limpy]

I'm looking for a Gun with decent accuracy. My buddy wants me to be the Designated Marksman. But I don't want to be screwed with a true sniper rifle.
I like the option off full auto if some one gets to close when no one gives me some damn cover. I'm not buying until late spring if not summer so I want to do some research before I drop a ton of money on it. Any useful help would be appreciated.

Right, first off, these companies are not trustworty (mostly):

Echo 1, JG, AGM, ACM, A&K. JG makes shady stock guns, and are really never worth the money. ACM is just any unbranded Chinese clone, AGM have bad internals, bad externals, bad wiring, HORRIBLE shim jobs, come over greased, and are a waste of your money and time. A&K have the worst stock shim jobs of all time, and come shooting extremely hot. Echo 1 = JG with a metal spring guide with the JG receiver being painted and stamped with E1 trades.

Secondly, you cannot have a DMR (designated marksman rifle) if you have the option of full auto, therefore you don't want a DMR, you want a long AR. Now that we have that cleared away, save 270, and go buy a Classic Army M16 (they call it an M15A2, as they have ArmaLite trademarks). I have had a great experience with Classic Armies, and they have absolutely fantastic stock compression, shim jobs, lube jobs, and accuracy. Their replicas are made from aluminium, have some very nice looking trades, and have preformed outstandingly for me every time that I have used one. If you would like, as I am unsure whether you really want a DMR or just want a 20" AR, then I'd love to help you find a CA SR-25, as I know that there are some out there. In fact, I am pretty sure there is one in the classifieds.

Also, if you're looking for a long range and decent grouping at lengths longer than 30 metres, then I would suggest investing in a tight bore. The 6.01s have beautiful changes in accuracy, overall range, and groupings at any range. You would also be good to add in an H nub to your hop up, and to add a new bucking, Firefly makes the best kind. Hop ups matter a great deal more than people make them out to be.

Thirdly, since I still am confused about you and a "DMR," do you want just a long barrelled rifle? Or do you want a real, semi auto only, lengthy rifle. Again, if you do, the SR-25s by CA are very nice.

[league 4]

Limpy, keep in mind H nubs don't work well with firefly type buckings. And as far as SR25's go, I highly recommend G&P or G&G over CA or A&K.

[Switchback]

JG makes shady stock guns, and are really never worth the money. Echo 1 = JG with a metal spring guide with the JG receiver being painted and stamped with E1 trades.

Thirdly, since I still am confused about you and a "DMR," do you want just a long barrelled rifle? Or do you want a real, semi auto only, lengthy rifle. Again, if you do, the SR-25s by CA are very nice.

My one JG M4A1 has already outlasted my friends KWA SR10 AND his DBoy KAC PDW. I even put more rounds through that old gun and I never even opened it.
Most JG's now come with metal spring guides.
The Classic Army SR-25 HAS a full auto firing mode; they just have realistic bodies so it doesn't say that it fires in auto.

[Limpy]

Limpy, keep in mind H nubs don't work well with firefly type buckings. And as far as SR25's go, I highly recommend G&P or G&G over CA or A&K.

Hmm, mine works magnificently in my ICS Sig 551, but you probably know more about them than I do. G&P and CA are both high quality manufacturers, and I would suggest either. When choosing between the two it's a battle of externals for me. A&K, as already stated, is terrible. I've also never worked on or with a G&G, but I've heard very mixed opinions and reviews about their stock internals.

My one JG M4A1 has already outlasted my friends KWA SR10 AND his DBoy KAC PDW. I even put more rounds through that old gun and I never even opened it.
Most JGs* now come with metal spring guides.
The Classic Army SR-25 HAS a full auto firing mode; they just have realistic bodies so it doesn't say that it fires in auto.

*Edits, no apostrophe after "JG," JG is plural, not possessive.

I would also like to see some sort of documentation of this, as I am doubtful. Dboys and KWA are brands whose quality varies, and I'd rather have a Dboys over a KWA. If you'd like to see why KWAs are less than satisfactory, let me direct you to this thread:

1. It's overly hyped up by ASGI.
2. The externals are ugly and plain, the KWA trades look silly and are in bad taste.
3. Magazine compatibility is hit and miss, I've put Dboys, MAG, TM, KA, and G&P mags in CAs, and they've all fed great.
4. Internals are good, the shell is nice, but they're nothing special, therefore I'd say it's over priced.
5. Occasionally hit and miss external quality; if any of you lot remember Jebus!, his KWA's receiver cracked nearly in half when he took a dive with it, although it was a rough landing, I don't think that a little hit would crack a G&P or CA's body in half.
6. Again, over rated by ASGI, every damn airsoft gun on the market is lipo ready. You can put a lipo to a one of those dinky Wal-Mart or Big 5 guns, and even those will last a few thousand rounds. Jester put an 11.1v in his Dboys, and, as far as I know it has stock internals, and it shot perfectly.
7. KWA fanboys.

That being said, you can spend a ton of money on a KWA, or you could go with a brand many airsofters live by, Classic Army or G&P. Every single time I have handled either of these brands they have preformed above and beyond what I'd expected, their externals have been gorgeous, or at least appealing. Plus CA has ArmaLite trades. ; )

Don't go comparing KWA as if they are a fantastical and amazing company. Cos' they're not. Aside, you may have received an exceptional JG, I've heard of people having these kinds of replicas that never break from every company. JG is not high quality. There is nothing you can possibly tell me that would sway me to think that JGs, OUT OF THE BOX, are better than CA or G&P. If there was, I wouldn't be Limpy.