Noob Alert. DMR needed

[G36 FTW]

AGM have bad internals, bad externals, bad wiring, HORRIBLE shim jobs, come over greased, and are a waste of your money and time.

I'm just gunna jump in and say AGM is a pretty decent company if you don't mind the pot metal body. I love the worn look on metal guns and my AGM m4 looks great because the finish has worn off some (but then again, I treat my guns like crap, so go figure).

I've been running it stock (besides a m110 spring) on a 9.6v for two years with one problem (edit: the cutoff lever wore down). The internals on my model were decent and the shimming was sub-par, but not horrible. Also, the wiring doesn't completely suck, the connection to the fuse assembly is just weak (and thats where a lot of them break). Bypass that and you're set to go.

Anyway, a lot of people seem to either love or hate AGMs, its possible my rifle was the lucky one, but the few I've worked on (besides mine) haven't had many problems either. (both of them had broken wiring harnesses at the fuse connection, and one of them had a worn down cutoff lever).


And the OP needs to get back to us to tell us what he is looking for exactly.

[Switchback]

NO. They are definitely not better quality than a CA or G&P. Better value? Do the math. I'll use Ehobby really quick:
Cheapest G&P M4: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-p-hong ... 2-aeg.html
Cheapest JG M4: http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/china-ae ... -6619.html

I actually had the JG for 2 years after my friend had it for 1. Now is the G&P MUCH nicer? Full metal? YES. Double the price and thats what you get. I could get some magazines and a cheap chest rig, some eye pro, bb's, and all the other stuff you need to get started. The clones usually come with batteries too!
The G&P will last longer, but you could get another JG if it broke, still having extras left over.

[Limpy]

I actually had the JG for 2 years after my friend had it for 1. Now is the G&P MUCH nicer? Full metal? YES. Double the price and thats what you get. I could get some magazines and a cheap chest rig, some eye pro, bb's, and all the other stuff you need to get started. The clones usually come with batteries too!
The G&P will last longer, but you could get another JG if it broke, still having extras left over.

So then you're saying two JGs = a G&P? Why not just save the trouble and get a G&P?

YOUR LOGIC IS SO FLAWED.

[Sahronax]

Anyway, a lot of people seem to either love or hate AGMs, its possible my rifle was the lucky one, but the few I've worked on (besides mine) haven't had many problems either. (both of them had broken wiring harnesses at the fuse connection, and one of them had a worn down cutoff lever).

Glad to see I'm not the only one who has had exceptional luck with AGM; I've been running mine with everything inside stock but a tightbore without a single problem. In spite of this I suppose I really CAN'T recommend AGM as a brand to buy, given what I have heard from an a-load of other people... CYMA I'll stick by though, given greater experience with it.

[Switchback]

YOUR LOGIC IS SO FLAWED.

Sorry if we don't see it the same way; you could get 2 JG's and
A: be a stupid dual-wielder (l33t pwn nbz)
B: let a friend borrow one and get another person into the sport
C: use the first one until it breaks, then get a second one (yay new gun. don't lie we all like that feeling)
D: Get a G&P and eventually sell it for enough to...BUY A JG! :0

More options my way.

G&P: Better gun, longer lasting, more durable, etc

JG: Instant performance, much less expensive, really not that bad to buy. It's not Crosman, for crying out loud.

[G36 FTW]

Sorry if we don't see it the same way; you could get 2 JG's and
A: be a stupid dual-wielder (l33t pwn nbz)
B: let a friend borrow one and get another person into the sport
C: use the first one until it breaks, then get a second one (yay new gun. don't lie we all like that feeling)
D: Get a G&P and eventually sell it for enough to...BUY A JG! :0

More options my way.

G&P: Better gun, longer lasting, more durable, etc

JG: Instant performance, much less expensive, really not that bad to buy. It's not Crosman, for crying out loud.

I'm sorry but this makes no sense at all... G&P's rifles are superior to JG's in almost every way besides initial price.

Why have two plastic rifles when you can have one sexy one?

[Limpy]

I'm sorry but this makes no sense at all... G&P's rifles are superior to JG's in almost every way besides initial price.

Why have two plastic rifles when you can have one sexy one?

This.

/thread

[ScaredShooter]

Haha I like Switchback's argument!
Regardless, the G&P is better, and I always say you'll realize later how happy you are that you had the common sense to buy a good gun.
So there's my humble advice. Don't buy a JG.

Some things, the quality isn't really worth the extra cost. But with other items, it is. I feel like airsoft really just steps it up a notch with the more expensive weapons. That said, if you're new and just looking for an entry DMR, sure you could get some cheap M14 or whatever and TBB it out.. But Im not really even sure if tightbores help much. Anyways, depends on personal preference I guess. Cheaper AEGs seem to work really well for some people. Whatever floats your boat I guess..

[NORDIC]

i think dj was referring to red dragon airsoft as the "company"

[Limpy]

i think dj was referring to red dragon airsoft as the "company"

What the shazaam does that have anything to do with the topic on hand? What're you responding to? Did you forget to quote a previous post so that it'd be clear who you were talking to? This thread gives me a bleeding migrane, there are too many newbs here, but I don't see any noobs.

Also /thread.

[FishSlapRepublic]

i think dj was referring to red dragon airsoft as the "company"

What the f**k does that have anything to do with the topic on hand? What're you responding to? Did you forget to quote a previous post so that it'd be clear who you were talking to? This thread gives me a f***ing migrane, there are too many newbs here, but I don't see any noobs.

Also /thread.

I would get the JG G3 long version, its about 140-150$. go to red dragon airsoft (online). its a local airsoft company with great prices.

Please read the AP reviews / pans regarding this " company" before proceeding .

[Limpy]

Oh no, I know. I know what he was talking about. But was totally out of nowhere, in accordance to what we were talking about. He did not quote it, and the post had been made two pages previously. It's common forum procedure to quote a post when responding to it if there had been even one post about a different subject above your post. He added quotes due to the fact that RDA is a scam website, and there has been much controversy on the subject, and, again, that is what he was talking about.

However it has nothing to do with this thread, and this thread has become entirely pointless. Inb4lock.

[Sahronax]

However it has nothing to do with this thread, and this thread has become entirely pointless. Inb4lock.

No small thanks to you, I might add?

I too, agree with Switchback: One G&P is worth any number of JG's...

[Limpy]

No small thanks to you, I might add?

I too, agree with Switchback: One G&P is worth any number of JG's...

Though I won't deny I had part in it, I must say Switchback doesn't know what he's talking about. I have personally used, looked inside of, and seen others use both brands. G&P is one of the top three airsoft manufacturers out there, and you don't seem to realise that. Have you used a G&P? Have you worked on, fixed, or seen inside of a G&P? Have you worked, used, or seen inside of a JG? They cost very little for a damn reason. You ask anyone here with any experience. You ask them if you should go out and waste money on two JGs, or whether you should purchase a very well made G&P. Why do you think people like Jewish Ninja, League 4, Nasty, and others suggest G&P? Because they are fantastic.

I'd honestly like to know what experience you have with G&P, because I am doubtful you have any. I also am not going to take advice from someone who joined two years ago and has 132 posts. Not to say that that means he has little experience or that he is lesser than I, but it makes it seem as though he has little to no participation within the community. But again, please, explain to me, other than "You can have TWO AEGs instead of ONE!" or "When one breaks you'll have another back up gun, even though both are sub par with stock internals!" or "ASGI said JG isn't tool bad, and neither did Evike, so it must be true!"

Thanks.

[DJ]

"2010's Most Improved Player" you are turning into a raging asshole, lighten up and or grow up