the stigma against box mags.

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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby wake.joe » Tue May 22, 2012 7:51 pm

Unless the distance from the mag catch slot and the mag lips changes, or maybe the "depth" of the slot itself, I don't think it matters how heavy the mag is...
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Jester316 » Tue May 22, 2012 8:02 pm

wake.joe wrote:Unless the distance from the mag catch slot and the mag lips changes, or maybe the "depth" of the slot itself, I don't think it matters how heavy the mag is...


Airsoft tolerances... Enough said...
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Orwell » Tue May 22, 2012 9:27 pm

wake.joe wrote:How on earth can a mag weigh too much to work well in a gun?

That doesn't make sense.


It does if your mags don't seat 100% against your feeding tube. Extra weight means extra pull, ergo you have more feeding issues on a heavier mag if the mag isn't perfectly fitted to your rifle.
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Tork » Wed May 23, 2012 2:11 am

i wonder how heavy a 5000 round bmag would weigh with .43....
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Jewish Ninja » Wed May 23, 2012 3:24 am

I'm basing that off my G&P Defender. It wouldn't sit high enough to feed without a strip of tape to make it tighter in the magwell. Every other mag works just fine in it. /shrugh
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Orwell » Wed May 23, 2012 3:47 am

Torkmastaflex wrote:i wonder how heavy a 5000 round bmag would weigh with .43....


BMag? You mean PMag?
An unloaded PMag weighs 5 oz. even with the dust cover, unloaded. Of course, that's real steel, but that should give you an idea. 5000 .43g rounds would weigh 2150g. 2150g is roughly 76 oz. Add 5 oz. because of the increase in size of a magazine, and you can estimate 86 oz, which is 5.375 pounds.

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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Darius137 » Wed May 23, 2012 6:22 am

Torkmastaflex wrote:i wonder how heavy a 5000 round bmag would weigh with .43....



5000 rounds at .43 grams each would be 2150 grams, which is 75.8390 oz. With 16 ounces in a pound, it would be roughly 4.74 pounds.

A standard M249 has a link ratio of 4 ball to every 1 tracer. Each M855 ball round weighs 12.31 grams and every tracer (M856) weighs 12.38 grams. For a 200 round drum an M249 would be carrying 160 M855 ball rounds and 40 M856 rounds. 160 x 12.31 = 1968 grams, + 40 x 12.38 = 495.2 grams. 1968 + 495.2 = 2463.2 grams of total weight in a real 200 round drum, not counting the drum itself. 2463.2 grams = 86.89 ounces / 16 = 5.56 pounds.

A standard 30 round STANAG mag in real life for an M4 weighs 1.1 pounds.

A standard hicap of 130 rounds at .25 grams each would be 32.5 grams, which is 1.15 ounces.


For realism, we want the ratio between a standard 30 round magazine to the 200 round drum to be an accurate crossover to the midcap to box mag for the support weapon. Obviously the midcap is a better choice here. Or something.



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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Junto » Wed May 23, 2012 8:48 am

HartThrob wrote:
Torkmastaflex wrote:i wonder how heavy a 5000 round bmag would weigh with .43....


BMag? You mean PMag?
Doubt it. "B" and "P" are hardly close on the keyboard. More likely he meant box mag... you know... the thing this whole thread is about. Keep your train of thought on-topic as well as your postings.
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby pathfinder » Wed May 23, 2012 9:11 am

M27 IAR....nuff said. ill be rocking one in the near future based of a CA LWRC base. i will be using magpul fatmags.

I WILL BE SPRAYING THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS DOWNRANGE....yes its very milsim, more milsim then you.
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Tork » Wed May 23, 2012 10:26 am

i meant box mag:D or the rare BAMF mag...
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Darius137 » Wed May 23, 2012 3:32 pm

pathfinder wrote:M27 IAR....nuff said. ill be rocking one in the near future based of a CA LWRC base. i will be using magpul fatmags.

I WILL BE SPRAYING THOUSANDS OF ROUNDS DOWNRANGE....yes its very milsim, more milsim then you.


Only milsim if you show up wearing the proper attire of a Marine infantryman to include Coyote BROWN gear.

Also, you need a thousand rounds with the way you shoot, super 9 sniper.

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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby TheZohan » Fri May 25, 2012 4:13 pm

wake.joe wrote:How on earth can a mag weigh too much to work well in a gun?

That doesn't make sense.


The mag catch isn't strong enough to hold the weight? Probably more of an issue on lower end guns.

Anyways, I had an idea awhile back to turn my SCAR into somewhat of a legit LMG. With a. . .

Cmag
Heavier/thicker barrel (no function for airsoft, in the real world this would be to compensate for the heat of long bursts)
Bipod
Compensator

End product would be something like an MG36.
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Catch22 » Fri May 25, 2012 6:39 pm

TheZohan wrote:
wake.joe wrote:How on earth can a mag weigh too much to work well in a gun?

That doesn't make sense.


The mag catch isn't strong enough to hold the weight? Probably more of an issue on lower end guns.

Anyways, I had an idea awhile back to turn my SCAR into somewhat of a legit LMG. With a. . .

Cmag
Heavier/thicker barrel (no function for airsoft, in the real world this would be to compensate for the heat of long bursts)
Bipod
Compensator

End product would be something like an MG36.


Happens on higher end airsoft guns aswell. Airsoft tollerances vary, especially with use.

And a SCAR with Cmag isnt an LMG.
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby Orwell » Sun May 27, 2012 12:43 pm

TheZohan wrote:
wake.joe wrote:How on earth can a mag weigh too much to work well in a gun?

That doesn't make sense.


The mag catch isn't strong enough to hold the weight? Probably more of an issue on lower end guns.

Anyways, I had an idea awhile back to turn my SCAR into somewhat of a legit LMG. With a. . .

Cmag
Heavier/thicker barrel (no function for airsoft, in the real world this would be to compensate for the heat of long bursts)
Bipod
Compensator

End product would be something like an MG36.



Will you be carrying extra barrels, as well? Don't forget the lift handles, unless you plan to carry an asbestos glove like folks did in Vietnam. ;)
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Re: the stigma against box mags.

Postby prowl375 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:29 pm

[quote="TheZohan]Anyways, I had an idea awhile back to turn my SCAR into somewhat of a legit LMG. With a. . .

Cmag
Heavier/thicker barrel (no function for airsoft, in the real world this would be to compensate for the heat of long bursts)
Bipod
Compensator

End product would be something like an MG36.[/quote]

If you were to put a C-Mag in a Scar-H it would make a little bit more sense, but do what you wish.
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