Noob Alert. DMR needed

[Sahronax]

I think that was a poor follow-up to something that quoted my post, seeing as how your entire two-paragraph rant agreed precisely with my second sentence in said quote. Albeit in considerably more verbose and unnecessarily gruff terms.

Point of the last half-dozen relevant threads: One G&P is better than any number of JGs, regardless of price; and Limpy needs to:

lighten up and or grow up

[Bulldog LV]

I've had experience with most airsoft companies and in my opinion, JG is not that bad. The worst companies I have dealt with are CA and WE.

The most work you wil have to do is maybe a new motor and a tightbore. And that is after a year of use.



If you are looking for something cheap that will last you a year or more, just stay away from CA.

Just ask Cap_N_Pickles, he loves clones. He could probably point you in the right direction

[Dalb]

WE GBB M14.
Love it.

[Bulldog LV]

WE GBB M14.
Love it.

Love it............... if you can afford it.

[Limpy]

I think that was a poor follow-up to something that quoted my post, seeing as how your entire two-paragraph rant agreed precisely with my second sentence in said quote. Albeit in considerably more verbose and unnecessarily gruff terms.

Point of the last half-dozen relevant threads: One G&P is better than any number of JGs, regardless of price; and Limpy needs to:

lighten up and or grow up

Point taken and observed.

I apologise for raging.

[Dalb]

WE GBB M14.
Love it.

Love it............... if you can afford it.

Don't have to when Airsplat is having a fan panic and decides to hand out three WE GBB for getting 100 people to "Like" their Facebook page

[Bulldog LV]

WE GBB M14.
Love it.

Love it............... if you can afford it.

Don't have to when Airsplat is having a fan panic and decides to hand out three WE GBB for getting 100 people to "Like" their Facebook page

Airsplat screwed me before, so they don't deserve my "Like".

But Iif I knew a WE M14 was at stake, I would have been a challenge for you.

[Dalb]

WE GBB M14.
Love it.

Love it............... if you can afford it.

Don't have to when Airsplat is having a fan panic and decides to hand out three WE GBB for getting 100 people to "Like" their Facebook page

Airsplat screwed me before, so they don't deserve my "Like".

But Iif I knew a WE M14 was at stake, I would have been a challenge for you.

You probably could have, nobody was really into it. I had 100 when some chick had 30ish, then my friend Troy decided to get in on it two days after it started and I had finished, and he still came in 3rd and won.

[God]

Sorry for being gone, anyway, yeah... I kind of like the JG idea, although please note, I am more than willing to buy used... I think everyone is forgetting that my budget is pretty much $200 MAX. I have yet to see a G&P anything for less than that. I'm liking the G&G Plastica, if I can get a m16 version... Or possibly a used G&G M14. My playtime... Once a week at most I expect. And lets assume I'll "forget" I'm the DMR occasionally... M4/M16? Maybe the G3... But I was kind of hoping for a NATO or US military weapon... I know a friend who has an ICS AK, it's much longer than his M4... Do AKs have DMR length barrels at least?

Edit: CYMA M14?

[Bulldog LV]

My buddy just picked up an Echo1 M14 and I'm extremelyimpressed with it. But the battery compartment is very small.

[God]

Nice, maybe. Right now, my friend's offering me his ICS AK... Can they be turned in to DMRs?

[Switchback]

"2010's Most Improved Player" you are turning into a raging asshole, lighten up and or grow up

This.

[Switchback]

Nice, maybe. Right now, my friend's offering me his ICS AK... Can they be turned in to DMRs?

For the sake of airsoft, yes. The inner barrel (correct me if I'm wrong) is decently long enough, and shouldn't be too hard to replace. I think if you get good enough quality parts you should be up to DMR standard with ease. A nice rail and a 2 power scope and you'll be set.

For the sake of realism, AK's are inaccurate out past 100 yards with iron sights, but deliver a whipping to anyone closer than that.

[Bush Killer]

In general, the AK hopup unit design is more consistent than an Armalite of comparable price range. The average AK barrel is around 450mm, compared to an M4's 363mm, and an M16's 509mm. The extra 50mm to go to the M16 length will net only marginal improvements, so if you have a good deal on a nice AK, go with it.

The number one thing in a quest for a DMR is to make sure you have the right internals. Externals can be ignored somewhat, especially if you're one who doesn't really care about plastic vs. metal or trades vs. blank receiver. From the back of the gun to the front, here's what you ABSOLUTELY need to have:

A high voltage battery. This is not to increase rate of fire, but rather to increase trigger response. I personally LOVE LiPo batteries because of their small size and light weight.

High torque motor. Again, trigger response. A high torque motor jumps to a faster start than a high speed motor.

M120 spring. Anything heavier and you'll be shooting over FPS limits. Go much lighter and you won't be able to push heavy weight bbs out to DMR range.

Matching cylinder, cylinder head, piston head, air nozzle and o-ring. This is where the magic happens with air compression. If you lose compression here, you get inconsistencies from shot-to-shot and you're not optimizing your power.

Consistent hopup unit. Your stock gun may come with a nice metal hopup unit, or it may come with a crappy two-piece plastic one that can warp. This is where a lot of people skimp; they buy a nice barrel, hopup bucking and nub, and stuff it into a brittle plastic hopup unit. Get something nice, like a NEO Strike, Systema or Madbull Ultimate chamber.

Hopup bucking. One of the most important upgrades you can buy, and also, one of the easiest to install improperly. Systema, Firefly, and KWA 2G buckings are all good buckings, and are inexpensive. Make sure to wrap the end with a layer or two of teflon tape to finalize your air seal.

Tightbore barrel. There are many choices to make; material, diameter, length and manufacturer, and it starts to get confusing. Basically, you need to evaluate what is best for you. Generally speaking, you want a stainless steel barrel. Prometheus is THE choice for this. At 6.03 and an extremely consistent bore, you can't really go wrong. Another solid choice is the old-school KM TN barrels. They are 6.04, so they won't give you pinpoint accuracy like some barrels can, but their teflon-nickel coating makes for an extremely consistent shot that WILL NOT JAM. I've put hundreds of thousands of rounds through one with no problems. If you're looking for a hotrod piece to center your build around, you want to buy a 6.01 tightbore. These are the tightest barrels you can buy, and require frequent maintenance to ensure you won't encounter jams. These also tend to be the most expensive barrels. EdGI and PDI are both well respected makers of 6.01 barrels. I picked up a MadBull 6.01 recently and have had mixed results. It jams fairly easily despite maintenance, but when it's on, it's ON. Tack driver at 200 feet, and that's only with a 363mm barrel length.

If you can put together the right parts and get them working perfectly, you'll have a rifle that will out-shoot 90% of the electrics on the field. The problem is time and resources. A build like this will take more than your budgeted $200, and requires hours and hours of installation, tweaking and testing.

Not to be discouraging, but the number one thing you should focus on is buying the replica that you like the feel and function of, and then getting magazines and gear for it. Then, buy your upgrades as you can afford them, and slowly watch your replica transform into a rifle you can be proud of.

[The Murse]

May i ask why a DustyCommie wants a NATO US weapon? =P

But any way, to stay on topic.

Bush Kill just stole best post for this thread. even though half of this topic was ranting what Bush kill just posted is Golden advice. Anything else you need to know is not even close to as imortant as Bush just posted.

Listen to Bush. Make sure your happy with your decision. Shoot some people full of plastic. Repeat =)