Mk. 17 (SCAR-H) replicas

[Voodoo Man]

My family is looking into getting me an AEG so I will get out more. I've checked the older threads, I've looked online on other forums, I've looked on multiple video channels, but I still have several questions I would like answered before I pounce on a decision.

STAR, CA, and VFC all currently make the SCAR-H. F--k STAR, I haven't seen a single full review on the CA and the results are rather conflicting as of late, and the main thing I hear about the VFC is that it is pleasing as far as realism is concerned. I also have seen that Dboy and Echo1 (rebrand of the Dboy?) are going to come out with the Heavy.

Between CA and VFC SCAR-H, what is the best one internally and what model is better externally? Between the two what replica is the better purchase?
Should I wait till the Dboy SCAR-H to comes out and does anyone know an estimated release date?

[LiquidSnak]

CA=better internals, VFC=better externals.

[HKspecter-A2]

I have had my CA SCAR-L for quite some time and it hasn't made so much as a hiccup. Very good accuracy with the addition of a tight bore barrel, it's been a while since I have shot it with the stock barrel. It does have an impressive finish and looks great, minus the white "classic army" on the left side of the receiver, but overall I like the looks. My first SCAR was a VFC SCAR-L and right out the box it didn't work, at that time I wasn't very AEG savvy, so I sent it back with the CA being its replacement. The difference in externals between the VFC and CA is night and day. Recently I have become more interested in having my guns with above par looks, so I purchased a VFC SCAR-H a couple days ago. Won't be able to tell you how it performs stock as I had the techs beef up the internals. I have noticed that other people have complained about CA's QC but in the 3 Classic Army AEG's I have, each has worked flawlessly right from the very start... all of those with stock internals. Bottom line, if you plan on airsofting for a while and learning the hoops internally with your gun, go with the VFC, it looks fantastic! But as a starter gun I would say go with the Classic Army

Edit: the VFC has it's own style hopup unit, as apposed to the traditional V2 unit that the CA uses. I haven't necessarily heardd anything wrong with VFC's hopup, but its something to keep in mind. Give Jewish Ninja a tug, I think hes had his SCAR-H for quite some time now... but don't ask him what he thinks of Classic Army

[Jewish Ninja]

If you want an ugly gun that has easy to obtain mags, get the CA. If you want one that looks hot, breaks down like the real thing and uses correct mags, get the VFC. Classic Army took the easy way out and made it work with the SR-25 style mags. Yes they are 308 mags, but they don't look right. As for the VFC guts, its worked fine, I just had the shims replaced (self shimming ftl) and a new piston installed since I'm not all the fond of clear plastic in a high stress environment.

I haven't heard anything of a release date on the Dboys, but if they clone the VFC, it might be worth a look.

[GacktC]

VFC produces the best Scar series (even I don't own one).
The previous Dboys Scars just copied straight out fr the CA version. They are not fancy but quite reliable with the price tag of $140-$190.
If your family is going to pay for the gun, really, get the VFC! It comes with the hardcase & all other goodies. They also sell the 3 pak Scar-H mag for a very decent price as well.

[Voodoo Man]

So the CA is bad externally, as far as realism is concerned, but is cheaper and has cheaper more readily available magazines.
The VFC is a better replica of the rifle and has a good (but not great?) mechbox, more expensive and harder to find magazines, plus it comes with goodies?
But as far as airsoft is concerned is the VFC really worth the extra $40 plus whatever for shipping?

[Jewish Ninja]

I say it is, but I'm one of those people that likes trades and my shit looking good. GI carries the VFC SCAR-H (where I got mine FWIW) but happens to be out of stock. The mags are pretty easy to find now, they didn't come out till a couple months ago and can be had at wgc, RW, airsoft global etc. Haven't seen them statestide yet. Plus if your buying quality SR mags (not chinky hi caps) The VFC mags are about the same price ( CA SR-25 mid cap is about 25, VFC SCAR-H mid is 63/3=$21 per)

One other advantage of the VFC over the CA is the CA uses a long SR type GB, where the VFC just uses a longer air seal nozzle. Means if the piston kerplodes, you don't need to find a long one or a long GB should that eat it.

I can bring it along to the game at Ivan's this sunday if you wanna give it a feel.

[DJ]

I own a CA scar l and am real happy with it. I would recommend getting the L vs the H for the simple reason of mag interchangeability. I had a AR 10 which uses the SR25 mags and did not care for the mags (reliability). most of the people you will be playing with will be using m4 variants. same mags as the L .As there is no caliber differential in airsoft (.223 vs .308) stick with the L. I would also recommend getting the black version as the tan kind of sticks out around here. Look on the AEX website for a good review of the CA scar

[Tombstone]

Funny, I was just checking all this out last night, just my luck somebody wiith better conmposieur would make a thread asking the same questions I have.
I was especially interested in that marksman style scar, myself.

[Voodoo Man]

Mother demands 7.62 to properly purge the unclean from her garden.

Basically what I'm hearing is if I want to use a SCAR-H i should go VFC, but if I was to get an L to go with Dboys or CA. That's why I was wondering about the release of the Dboy Mk. 17, last I heard it was going to be a VFC clone and I dont want my family to spend $700 getting kit I wont use very often because of school.

Edit: Oh, you're quite welcome Abe.

[Tombstone]

Is there an ETA on that Dboys scar h?

[DJ]

sorry, not buying the .308 argument. No .308 airsoft bbs yet, so until someone comes up with a better reason to go with the H, I would stick with the L. Function over form. I used the same argument with sniper rifles. I looked hard at the Barret til I saw how much it weighed. Cool to look at but no advantage over the one that weighed 10 lbs less.

[Jewish Ninja]

All I've heard about the Dboys SCAR-H is the pic they posted on airsoft news (a year ago) and the pic of it on the Dboys SCAR-L box. Nothing past that. Could be out tomorrow or another year... Does look like it'll use the VFC style mags which can be good.

EDIT: DJ, airsoft is all about form over function. Sure sharing mags is handy, but that shouldn't be the basis of what gun you buy.

[DJ]

Short version JN.....get what you like. I go for function over form, though for many (most) its about fashion.

[LiquidSnak]

sorry, not buying the .308 argument. No .308 airsoft bbs yet, so until someone comes up with a better reason to go with the H, I would stick with the L. Function over form. I used the same argument with sniper rifles. I looked hard at the Barret til I saw how much it weighed. Cool to look at but no advantage over the one that weighed 10 lbs less.

With that argument everyone would own an M4 CQB and an M16. And there would be one kind of bolt action rifle produced.

This is airsoft. Form over function :P