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Postby firemedic2296 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:14 pm

My G36 piston head screw came out and busted the piston and piston head...so I need to order some parts, some advice on what I need to order..the piston has broken teeth and the piston head is broken...do I need to replace the cylinder too?
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Postby Blizzard » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:36 pm

Cylinder should be fine as long as it isn't scratched. Get a Modify polycarb piston and Modify polycarb ball bearing ported piston head.
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Postby G36 FTW » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:39 pm

As long as it isn't scratched or warped (unlikely) the cylinder should be fine...

My advice:Piston and Piston Head
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Postby league 4 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:50 pm

G36 FTW wrote:As long as it isn't scratched or warped (unlikely) the cylinder should be fine...

My advice:Piston and Piston Head


I'd also get what he listed, depending on your budget.
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Postby SlasheI2 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:25 pm

Don't get a metal piston head, trust me, your gearbox shell will thank you for it. Metal piston heads are heavier, and do not flex when they hit the cylinder head like polycarb ones do. This leads to cracked gearboxes as well as lower ROF and more motor strain equaling less battery life.
Get this http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-part/parts-upgrade-aeg/piston-heads/gandp-polyamide-explosive-bearing-piston-head.html.

Some people have had issues about the G&P piston's pic up tooth breaking off due to a bad design. I do not have any personal experience on this but have only heard good reviews on this http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_148&products_id=3285 piston

EDIT: Whoops, sorry guys, you can completely disregard my previous statement. I must have overlooked the type of gun/gearbox you were using. My post applies to V2s. :(
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Postby G36 FTW » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:08 pm

SlasheI2 wrote:Don't get a metal piston head, trust me, your gearbox shell will thank you for it. Metal piston heads are heavier, and do not flex when they hit the cylinder like polycarb ones do. This leads to cracked gearboxes as well as lower ROF and more motor strain equaling less battery life.


He is using a V3 gearbox; a metal piston head is fine. And any difference in ROF or Battery life is miniscule compaired to a polycarb one.
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Postby CommieHunter » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:09 pm

SlasheI2, an Aluminum piston head is really not much heavier than a polycarb one. In many years and many hundreds of guns, I have had no higher incidence of gearbox breakage in AEGs with metal piston heads than with polycarb ones. If weight were an issue, you should eliminate the bearing, as it contributes much more to overall weight than aluminum or polycarb head construction.

The piston head never hits the cylinder. It does hit the cylinder head, but, again, an aluminum one isn't going to cause your gearbox to crack. Having poor compression will. Having a weak gearbox shell will.

However, I do have to thank you for using readable grammar, even if I disagree with you.

Some G&P pistons snap, but it's usually in stock G&P gearboxes, and is due to the engagement angle. When used in aftermarket applications with proper installation, I've never had the back tooth of a G&P piston break. They are a little softer than some other pistons, and I've eaten the middle teeth out with some bad jams.

I personally like the Modify Polycarbonate Piston. I've had excellent results with it in every AEG I have installed it in. It also has the best track record in a G&P M249 known for breaking pistons. Shogun really likes the standard CA Yellow Piston. It is flexible so the rear tooth won't break off in high ROF setups. However, you must remove the 2nd to last tooth (2nd one from the back) so that the sector gear can engage properly. Both Shogun and I have had good results with the Echo1 Hard Prometheus Style Piston as well. It's a direct copy of the Prometheus piston, including the strengthened side rails next to the teeth.

I personally like the Modify Aluminum Bearing Piston Head, but if you want a polycarb one, the Modify Polycarbonate Bearing Piston Head is good as well.
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Postby Jewish Ninja » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:53 am

+1 to the modify polycarb piston. One thing though is you might need a Modify spring as well. My piston didn't play well with a stock TM spring so I had to replace it with a Modify M100.
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Postby LiquidSnak » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:27 am

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info ... s_id=29321

Plus a modify piston and you'll be golden.
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Postby firemedic2296 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:50 pm

[quote=I personally like the Modify Polycarbonate Piston. I've had excellent results with it in every AEG I have installed it in. It also has the best track record in a G&P M249 known for breaking pistons. Shogun really likes the standard CA Yellow Piston. It is flexible so the rear tooth won't break off in high ROF setups. However, you must remove the 2nd to last tooth (2nd one from the back) so that the sector gear can engage properly. Both Shogun and I have had good results with the Echo1 Hard Prometheus Style Piston as well. It's a direct copy of the Prometheus piston, including the strengthened side rails next to the teeth.

I personally like the Modify Aluminum Bearing Piston Head, but if you want a polycarb one, the Modify Polycarbonate Bearing Piston Head is good as well.[/quote]
What about the half teeth ones I see, what do they work in? is it for faster rate of fire?
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Postby Nec » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:07 pm

Interestingly I just got done helping my neighbor who had this very same problem.

You should take the gearbox apart and see exactly what you need, before you order. ;)
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Postby firemedic2296 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:32 pm

Nec wrote:You should take the gearbox apart and see exactly what you need, before you order. ;)

I did take it apart, thats how I found all the broken parts...the piston is toast and the piston head is busted in half...I think the cylinder is ok, just need the rest
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Postby CommieHunter » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:58 pm

Firemedic,

Half tooth pistons are specifically for use with certain Helical gearsets, usually super-high torque gearsets.
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Postby firemedic2296 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:04 pm

Ok, thanks for the info on the half teeth...
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