M39 EMR/ M14 EBR

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M39 EMR/ M14 EBR

Postby Sahronax » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:28 pm

I am seriously looking towards getting an M14 EBR or similar for my next AEG, and I was wondering what brands make them, and which are recommended. Every time I do a different search another brand comes up, so I was looking more for which would be most highly recommended.
I am currently looking at the Classic Army M14 EBR, would this be considered a good choice, or is there a higher-quality gun for a comparable or better price that I haven't found?
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Postby pseudoanimosity » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:41 pm

I'm no expert on m14's, but classic army makes solid guns, so I assume their m14 would be good.

If I'm not mistaken, you're the same person with the gbb m14, why are you looking to get the same platform in AEG form?
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Postby Sahronax » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:48 pm

I don't own an M14, if that's what you mean...?
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Postby Snowman » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:50 pm

Dunno about the CA, but the G&G feels great. When you can find one. :/
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Postby Pharaoh 7 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:08 pm

If you are looking for something different you could try the KART M14 JAE platform. It is compatible with TM type parts and upgrades so it could be a good base for a unique project.
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Postby CBeran » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:21 pm

I have owned the Echo 1, Classic Army, and G&G M14's and my personal opinion is as follows (internals/mags. Not external quality):

Echo 1 M14 (Socom 16)
Pro's
Good mags (easy to switch)
Ultra reliable
Decent accuracy
Good performance out of the box
Lightweight

Cons
Toy like
Small battery compartment

The Echo 1 version of the EBR (or the Kart) would likely need some work internally to be a reliable DMR. Recommendations would be a tight bore barrel and hop up nub. One major pro to this and other TM clone M14's is the ease with which the mags can be changed.


Classic Army M14 EBR
Pro's
Solid construction
Decent accuracy
Decent performance out of the box

Con's
Very heavy
Not the greatest internals out of the box
Sub par DMR accuracy
Mags

The Classic Army M14 EBR is a beast. This gun is fairly heavy and when mounted with a scope and bi-pod becomes quite a pain to heft around the field. The accuracy of this replica out of the box is not the greatest, though there are a lot of aftermarket parts that could help improve this. The mags on the CA are also a pain to change. If they aren't snapped into the gun just the right way they will not feed, which can cause a lot of strife on the field.

G&G M14 Veteran (Wood Stock)
Pro's
Great range
Decent accuracy
Strong internals
Decent performance out of the box

Con's
Mags
Accuracy can vary a bit at range

The G&G M14 is probably the strongest contender as far as the internals go. It is not hard to get this gun to shoot right up at 400fps with pretty impressive range and accuracy. My only complaint with this replica as with the CA is the mags being extremely temperamental when inserted into the receiver.


I hope this is helpful.
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Postby Hallowground » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:22 pm

you'd have to look really hard to find the Kart ebrs in stock, i havn't seen them in ages. kart's is about 170, and it's of barely above average quality internaly. about on par with cyma, but the externals are of apparently lackluster quality, being made of cheap pot metal and not even good enough to mount a good bipod. the CA and G&G are of observed and obvious quality, as are the G&Ps, but they are all of course very expensive. the converted GBB WE has few reviews and i havn't looked much into it.

i think if you could find a G&P that would be the best option, though probably more expensive than CA.
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Postby CBeran » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:26 pm

G&P guns almost always have to have the gears replaced out of the box. Not necessarily a bad thing if you have the extra money as they are unmatched externally. The G&G and CA's are a good alternative though.

And for the Kart EBR's:
http://www.airsplat.com/Items/ERM-KART-M668.htm
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Postby Nocte » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:35 pm

CBeran wrote:The G&G M14 is probably the strongest contender as far as the internals go. It is not hard to get this gun to shoot right up at 400fps with pretty impressive range and accuracy. My only complaint with this replica as with the CA is the mags being extremely temperamental when inserted into the receiver.


Nice write-up. I'm not sure I agree on all points, but it's nothing to bother pointing out.

I also noticed that CA M14 mags (the 110-round midcaps) don't like to feed the last 10-ish rounds. The G&G mags don't have this problem, but their standards/midcaps are only 80-rounds.
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Postby Sahronax » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:44 pm

For the record, I am not looking for a DMR weapon so much as simply a field weapon with generous ability to be customized, both internally and externally, as well as looking BA. The EBR specifically fits that bill
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Postby Sahronax » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:02 pm

DOODZ, I FOUND MY GUN:
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... _Stock.htm

On a more serious note, I have now discovered that both ARES and STAR also make an EBR, one for the same price as the G&G and the other for about half that.
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... andard.htm

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/saa-aeg-38-m ... ndard.html

Thoughts?
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Postby Nocte » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:10 pm

Roughly the same price? That's almost $150 more, I'd say that's out of the realm of "roughly the same price," considering the G&G Veteran runs $355.

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Postby Sahronax » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:13 pm

Well given the limited amount of research I have been able to conduct, G&G and ARES appear to be pretty much the same price. It is a work in progress, though

EDIT: Also, 'half' on the STAR is incorrect; there is a $200 some difference between them though
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Postby Catch22 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:55 pm

The EBR is a front heavy rock. The only thing I'd ever use one for, is to tie to a body and drop in a river.
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Postby mossy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:13 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but they are more of a DMR/sniper rifle platform and would normally be used with a bipod or monopod for support so it would not matter if it was front heavy... But if your going to run around with it, it's not going to be the best thing for that.
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