Ak700 battery

[Omega_patrick]

Hey guys, new here and pretty new to airsoft. I recently purchased a echo1 ak700 and in my opinion, the batter is really weak, it doesn't hold a long charge and after about 15 minutes of play, the rate of fire goes waaaaaay down hill. Just want some input on what I should do. The battery is a 1100 mAh 8.4v

[Cyclops]

Me personally I don't like the 8.4 batteries. Go to next step up to a 1600 Mah NIMH battery or next level is a 7.4 1200 Lipo battery. Then the over power gear shredder 11.1 Lipo (don't recommend). Just remember the mah on a NIMH battery is a 1 to 1 mah per shot. Using a lipo is more like a 1 mah to 1.8 shots. I'd just get the 7.4 lipo battery and the right charger and your good for a while. Bag the 8.4 and move up.

[Omega_patrick]

Me personally I don't like the 8.4 batteries. Go to next step up to a 1600 Mah NIMH battery or next level is a 7.4 1200 Lipo battery. Then the over power gear shredder 11.1 Lipo (don't recommend). Just remember the mah on a NIMH battery is a 1 to 1 mah per shot. Using a lipo is more like a 1 mah to 1.8 shots. I'd just get the 7.4 lipo battery and the right charger and your good for a while. Bag the 8.4 and move up.

So the Lipo battery pretty much doubles the mah to shot ratio?

[Cyclops]

yes plus have a longer life span then a NIMH battery. Just don't run the battery to low because if you do the battery is dead. But you can tell when your losing power due to a dramatic drop in power. Don't try to push it longer or you could run your battery dead. Lipo also has instant power where the NMIH gives power at a slower rate. If the NIMH does not have a like 50% charge when storing it will lose power in the long run and become dead where the Lipo it holds it power better all around.

[ClownBaby]

But before you do all that, try this.

I just got almost the same gun from Echo1, "charged" the battery, put it in, gun ran like shit.

Then I put the battery back on the charger for almost four hours, checking the battery and wall charger for excessive heat about every twenty minutes or so.

Put it back in my gun, runs like a champ. Played a few hours on it, was still running strong.

Don't forget to check for heat.

[Jmonday]

I would be careful using a LIPO battery in a stock gun.

LIPO's are the best to use when you want a high rate of fire with constant juice. But constantly firing is going to shorten the span and up stress on motor & gears. Especially new guns.

If your going to be upgrading your internals, then buy a LIPO.

LIPOs aren't meant for new, stock part guns, from my experience, I've ran a LIPO for a few years, switching from a 9.6v NiMH. During the first year or so of switching, I had to get a new motor, gears, the whole 9 yards. I've had to upgrade all of the gear box, plus new wires. Because I was dumb and didn't wire it to deans.

Another thing is the wiring. If your in a tight spot, shooting, and not realizing that you're putting an unextraordinary stress on the gun, making the battery so hot, it melds to the wires.

Though, I would advise against putting a LIPO inside the gun, I would just get a NiMH for now. Upgrade later. Better safe than sorry.

In the end its up to you. You can pick and choose what you want, but speaking from experience, I'd wait until you can upgrade the internal parts.

You're gonna get a shit battery with the gun, face it and buy another one. Just get some NiMH or something. Not a LIPO!

[Payback]

Running a 7.4 lipo will not hurt your gun anymore than running a 9.6 nimh battery. When a company says lipo ready, that's what they are defaulting to, the 7.4v lipo. Any gun that uses a battery can run on a 7.4. Now the 11.1 is a different story.


Your best option tho since your new to airsoft is to buy a smart charger for nimh batteries and pick up a 9.6 butterfly or small type brick around 1200 to 1800 mah. If you have room, go big as you can fit.

The little wall chargers suck balls. Smart chargers charge what the battery needs then shut off the charge so they don't over charge. Also on nimh batteries can use to be discharged before charged.

Lipo's are easy to use and maintain, but you can screw up allot easier than standard batteries and cause a fire if your not careful.

[Jewish Ninja]

Lipos and their chargers can be had for pretty cheap. I'd suggest 7.4 lipos. They have less decay than NIMH batteries (I've had lipos I've charged two weeks prior to a game still at full charge, unlike NIMHs). Plus, they are smaller and usually cheaper than NIMH batteries.

Lipos are quite sturdy batteries. I've only had one blow up, which was due to getting wet. Fortunately it blew up in my Real Sword, so the gun was fine. Just had to scrape lipo guts out of my stock.

[ogrejager]

LIPO's are the best to use when you want a high rate of fire with constant juice. But constantly firing is going to shorten the span and up stress on motor & gears. Especially new guns.

This is somewhat incorrect. All LIPO's are not the same. A 7.4 LIPO, as others have explained, is a whole different animal than an 11.1 LIPO.

[Cyclops]

I agree with the 7.4 lipos as mention above. Stay away from the 11.1 lipos as those are the gear stripers if your gun is not upgraded inside. 7.4 will run in any gun and with a $60 to $80 charger (RC charger) you can have a 1200 mah battery fully charged and balanced any where from 20 minutes to 1 hr at the longest. Lipos only go in all my guns stock or not.
1 7.4 lipo 1200 mah is the same as having 2 9.6 1200 Mah batteries. Why carry the extra battery on the field with ya when really the one lipo should last you most of the day. Depending on how you play any ways. You may ehar stories about lipos catching on fire or something but it rarely happens. you just need to take care of them as don't get them wet (placed under water), scratch the casing around the battery it's self, or over charged and not ballenced which can be avoided if you use your charger right which most of us can. It's pretty easy to use and set up.

[Payback]

Check hobbyking for batteries and chargers for lipo's. You can get a lipo battery for around $6 and get a cheap charger for like $15. The higher end charger i got from there was about $35.

Also, if you see a product you want to buy, stay on that product page for a minute or two and a cheaper deal will pop up. Also choose the USA location so shipping is from the seattle area warehouse.

[Omega_patrick]

Running a 7.4 lipo will not hurt your gun anymore than running a 9.6 nimh battery. When a company says lipo ready, that's what they are defaulting to, the 7.4v lipo. Any gun that uses a battery can run on a 7.4. Now the 11.1 is a different story.


Your best option tho since your new to airsoft is to buy a smart charger for nimh batteries and pick up a 9.6 butterfly or small type brick around 1200 to 1800 mah. If you have room, go big as you can fit.

The little wall chargers suck balls. Smart chargers charge what the battery needs then shut off the charge so they don't over charge. Also on nimh batteries can use to be discharged before charged.

Lipo's are easy to use and maintain, but you can screw up allot easier than standard batteries and cause a fire if your not careful.

So, I have another question, how do I convert it to accept Lipo? Like is there an adaptor? Or do I need to replace all the wires?

[Omega_patrick]

My last quote goes to anyone who can answer

[ClownBaby]

Just stare at it really hard.

[Cyclops]

No change into anything. I recommend you switch your plug in your gun from a small tamyia plug to a deans connecter. Most lipos have the deans on them. But if you don't want to do that then you can get a conversion from a small tamyia to a deans for like $5 at any hobby store.
http://www.evike.com/products/29330/
http://www.evike.com/products/29329/
All depends on what plug you need to plug into your gun and battery.