Sniper Rifle as a side project

[k3gn3123512]

I would like to start this thread out with a little disclaimer.
I have read all the stickied topics above. I have read the Bolt-Action forum. This is not a request for help to become a super l33t sniper. Not at all, I have been recently toying with the idea of getting a decent sniper rifle and upgrading it every now and then as a side project. I have an AEG and I am planning to buy another one soon. While playing recently at a event I volunteered to be a spotter with one of the experienced snipers. I seriously enjoyed that style of game, most we did was relay information and the only two shots that the guy took were both hits. It was alot of fun. So i thought I could slowly start building a rifle and over time not only will I have built something nice and accurate I will also have throughly learned to be a Designated Marksman and I will also have improved my Marksman skills.

Now my question here is what Kind of gun should I use as my base and what upgrades would be vital to improving it drastically.
I was looking at the Well G-22 because It works with my Bundeswehr Loadout. But I am open to ideas, like i said I am planning to re haul the internals so I am more or less just looking at the externals. I know well is the biggest piece of shit you can get. I know the whole you have to spend a lot of money story, I know that and I am willing to, just over time. I am willing to buy the best parts that I can find (given their price is realistic). Also Gas vs Spring what is superior in your guys opinion. I am more leaning towards spring because of its versatility in the winter and it has more reliability.
I am sorry for asking the old sniper question but I feel that I have realized the risks that come with it.

Edit-The TM L96 sounds sexy.



This is the G-22 it is a L96 with a folding stock (Wikipedia says so, I highly doubt that I think it is a retractable stock.) and a few upgrades. In real steel this one shoots a .300 Winchester.

[Raging Hormann]

Bad Karma (Whopper Jr.?) Has the Well L96. It was shooting 602 at Belligerence. SO, if you get that, you'd have to do some work to bring it down.

I also like the TM L96.

Now I will let the people who KNOW answer your questions.

[LiquidSnak]

The G-22 has a folding stock.

[Beran]

the G22 is what the german military is calling the Accuracy International AWM. it does have a folding stock, the L96 does not. the only truly accurate AWM replica on the market is the STAR/ARES. everything else is the L96 style fixed stock. at that point its kind of a personal preference though.

[k3gn3123512]

the G22 is what the german military is calling the Accuracy International AWM. it does have a folding stock, the L96 does not. the only truly accurate AWM replica on the market is the STAR/ARES. everything else is the L96 style fixed stock. at that point its kind of a personal preference though.

Thanks for all the info. What worries me is that the the Ares one is still from STAR and when ARES and STAR were still working together the guns were shit. I am especially worried If I am going to shell out 450 for a Sniper Rifle it better be a god damn awesome base to work off.

Otherwise I might as well just start of with an TM and upgrade off there. What worries me about TM is that the body is ABS and since it will be the only thing that I will keep stock if it is the best option. Also is there a way to maybe replace the fixed stock?

What i don't like about the STAR is that it uses Gas. It might be a bit conflicting with the up and down temperatures in my area. As of now the STAR does not look like something I would like to buy.
The STAR is also out of production it seems.

[Raging Hormann]

As far as I've heard, the Star AW338 is actually a very nice gas rifle. And in all honesty, I would drop the money for it if I had huge cash flow. Or raffle tickets...

You can go for the VSR10, my DM has one. It chronos around 550, and he's a deadeye. Alternately, you could work up an M24 or M700 and drop an HPA system in it.

[Voodoo Man]

If the temp in your area is going to be an issue, roll with a spring sniper.

Start with the TM, save yourself a headache and the money.

[k3gn3123512]

If the temp in your area is going to be an issue, roll with a spring sniper.

Start with the TM, save yourself a headache and the money.

I suppose I will start with a TM. How is the body compared to clones? I plan on completely re hauling it. Any ideas what parts i should start out upgrading first? I just watched a video and the gun looks pretty damn solid.

I was thinking a Tightbore and then a good spring to upgrade the FPS to something a bit more usable. I am planning on using the gun with .43 bb's.

[Raging Hormann]

If you go with the TM L96, I believe most of the parts are compatible from the VSR10, except the cylinder, piston, and spring. (and related parts...)

The zero trigger is a great addition. As well as a HIGH quality TBB. Either Prometheus, PDI, or Dee's. From what I've heard, the Matrix TBB's are made by the factory that does Prometheus, so they are good too. This is hearsay, though.

I'd add a suppressor purely for the actual silencing qualities.

[k3gn3123512]

I just noticed that Maruzen Makes an L96 Spring powered with a fiber reinforced polymer body. This seems to be much better then the TM's ABS body.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... _black.htm

[Merchant]

Your taking the right step in getting a higher end rifle for starting off, but there is ALOT more to it than just good quality parts. Personally, I would choose a VSR style rifle over a L96, but thats just because I know VSR's more. I also don't know how much information there is on the L96. Anyway, reading over the sniper forums here isn't nearly enough. If I were you I would make an arniesairsoft.co.uk account and look through thier threads in the sniper section as well. They have experts from all over the world.

Now just a warning. I have spent 9 months looking over everything I can possibly find about the VSR model and I am still learning alot. Don't expect to be able to slap in your upgrades and be ready to go. You will spend ALOT of time looking though articles, and tuning your rifle if you want to get the most out of it. There is a reason there aren't many people who are into being an "airsoft sniper." Also, you said you knew it would cost money. It will, and if you make a mistake in buying certain parts, then it will cost more. It adds up fast especially if your base rifle is $300.

[k3gn3123512]

Your taking the right step in getting a higher end rifle for starting off, but there is ALOT more to it than just good quality parts. Personally, I would choose a VSR style rifle over a L96, but thats just because I know VSR's more. I also don't know how much information there is on the L96. Anyway, reading over the sniper forums here isn't nearly enough. If I were you I would make an arniesairsoft.co.uk account and look through thier threads in the sniper section as well. They have experts from all over the world.

Now just a warning. I have spent 9 months looking over everything I can possibly find about the VSR model and I am still learning alot. Don't expect to be able to slap in your upgrades and be ready to go. You will spend ALOT of time looking though articles, and tuning your rifle if you want to get the most out of it. There is a reason there aren't many people who are into being an "airsoft sniper." Also, you said you knew it would cost money. It will, and if you make a mistake in buying certain parts, then it will cost more. It adds up fast especially if your base rifle is $300.

Thanks for this great post. I am actually a member at arnies already but I have yet to take a look at the sniper section. I went with the L96 because I prefer the look simply. I don't plan this being a slap on project. This is going to be more of a long term project.

Thanks alot again.

[LiquidSnak]

You won't be disappointed in the maruzen if they are aftermarket friendly. It is good to take your time and do it well. It took me three months of tweaking to get my MP5 running perfectly.

[k3gn3123512]

There is the picture of the Maruzen. Am I the only one that thinks the paintjob is ugly.

[Jester316]

If you mean lack of paintjob...

You're looking at the bare fiber stock (hence being able to see the fibers). I think it looks good though.