US Custom's Seizes "Machine Guns"

Discuss anything and everything here that's Airsoft related.

Postby Junto » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:27 pm

I'm not gonna be home. D: I hope they put it online.
Image
User avatar
Junto
1337
1337
 
Team: DRAT
Posts: 7581
Age: 37
Images: 7
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:12 pm
Location: Aloha, Oregon

Postby mokthraka » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:28 pm

AirsoftoutletNW wrote:We were interviewed by KOIN TV 6 today in regards to this issue and set the record straight. Be sure to watch the news tonight!
http://www.koinlocal6.com/
hope they send that "documentation" to you haha

my mom told me it was on the news so I can and watched, even she was laughing when they said you could turn it into a real gun
User avatar
mokthraka
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 191
Age: 32
Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:36 pm
Location: Portland, Oregon

Postby Nails » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:10 pm

Sure sometimes they can be heavy handed, but wtf, we dropped a 500lbs JDAM on a mortar team in Tal Afar because it was the safest way to eliminate that threat. was that a bit heavy handed? Shit yeah it was....but it was fun and it kept my fellow Tomahawks from getting shot by a city full of iranian scum.


Umm...last time I checked the U.S. government is not at war with its citizens. So thank you for your service but your erroneous analogies make me want to laugh until I puke. Also, people and institutions screw up all the time, including the U.S. government and its employees. Having a stars and stripes patch on your arm does not magically make everything you do just and righteous.
Nails
Grunt
Grunt
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 55
Age: 38
Images: 2
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:50 pm
Location: Spokane, WA

Postby Dukky » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:24 pm

Nails wrote:
Sure sometimes they can be heavy handed, but wtf, we dropped a 500lbs JDAM on a mortar team in Tal Afar because it was the safest way to eliminate that threat. was that a bit heavy handed? Shit yeah it was....but it was fun and it kept my fellow Tomahawks from getting shot by a city full of iranian scum.


Umm...last time I checked the U.S. government is not at war with its citizens. So thank you for your service but your erroneous analogies make me want to laugh until I puke. Also, people and institutions screw up all the time, including the U.S. government and its employees. Having a stars and stripes patch on your arm does not magically make everything you do just and righteous.


Off topic much?
Image
User avatar
Dukky
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 100
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:44 am
Location: Vancouver, WA

Postby lilwil » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:30 pm

ROGUEDETAIL wrote:
Nails wrote:
Sure sometimes they can be heavy handed, but wtf, we dropped a 500lbs JDAM on a mortar team in Tal Afar because it was the safest way to eliminate that threat. was that a bit heavy handed? Shit yeah it was....but it was fun and it kept my fellow Tomahawks from getting shot by a city full of iranian scum.


Umm...last time I checked the U.S. government is not at war with its citizens. So thank you for your service but your erroneous analogies make me want to laugh until I puke. Also, people and institutions screw up all the time, including the U.S. government and its employees. Having a stars and stripes patch on your arm does not magically make everything you do just and righteous.


Off topic much?


Add much to the conversation? much?
cookies.
lilwil
Ranger
Ranger
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 724
Age: 38
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:39 am
Location: eugene

Postby Dukky » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:46 pm

lilwil wrote:
ROGUEDETAIL wrote:
Nails wrote:
Sure sometimes they can be heavy handed, but wtf, we dropped a 500lbs JDAM on a mortar team in Tal Afar because it was the safest way to eliminate that threat. was that a bit heavy handed? Shit yeah it was....but it was fun and it kept my fellow Tomahawks from getting shot by a city full of iranian scum.


Umm...last time I checked the U.S. government is not at war with its citizens. So thank you for your service but your erroneous analogies make me want to laugh until I puke. Also, people and institutions screw up all the time, including the U.S. government and its employees. Having a stars and stripes patch on your arm does not magically make everything you do just and righteous.


Off topic much?


Add much to the conversation? much?
cookies.


Not on this forum . . .
But to humor you this is what I said,
ATF said "With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun," Which is total B.S. Even if you were able to get the custom parts made to fit in the gun, the gun would blow up in your face, due to the pressures and firing an actual bullet. Plus youre buying a $600-800 gun then completely ruining it to try and make it shoot real bullets. Not to mention the price of the custom parts would be very expensive when you could just buy a bushmaster for $1000.
Last edited by Dukky on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Dukky
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 100
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:44 am
Location: Vancouver, WA

Postby Rogue Reaper » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:51 pm

prerequisit quote tunnel achived,


Lock 'er up.
I Like My Motorcycles Loud And My Firearms Quiet. ~ Me
User avatar
Rogue Reaper
1337
1337
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 4152
Age: 56
Images: 2
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:49 pm
Location: WARNING : no social filter.

Postby Dukky » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:53 pm

I've seen worse dude, don't be so lock happy.
As long as lilwill doesn't quote me, it's all good
Image
User avatar
Dukky
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 100
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:44 am
Location: Vancouver, WA

Postby Raging Hormann » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:08 pm

Anyways...
tonight at 11?
R.I.P. Spc. Taylor Marks; Until We Meet Again
I'm so inappropriate, even I need an adult some times.
Eudorus wrote:...and simply show up and shoot everyone since all of these assholes are running around on our island.

SPECIAL FORCES J.A.D GROUP SINCE 2012
User avatar
Raging Hormann
1337
1337
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 2450
Age: 35
Images: 5
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:43 pm
Location: Salem, OR

Postby lilwil » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:37 pm

who the hell is lilwill?

and is it on the 10 oclock news, or 11
She said I raped her? Well, where there is a Will there is a way. But just remember, if it wasn't Lil, it wasn't Wil.

Juicemachine: lilwil (the self-provlaimed racist) wrote:
Your hatred is based on ignorance.

IR the self-provlaimed racist:)
lilwil
Ranger
Ranger
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 724
Age: 38
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:39 am
Location: eugene

Postby Jebus! » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:02 pm

There is an article already posted on the Koin website.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx

[quote]CORNELIUS, Ore. - A local business owner is flabbergasted after a shipment of 30 toy guns for his store was confiscated by ATF agents in Tacoma.

Brad Martin and his son, Ben, sell the Airsoft BB guns from their store in Cornelius where they’ve been in business for seven years.

The Martins said they buy their stock from Taiwan because the merchandise is less expensive. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives seized a shipment of 30 in October. That shipment is worth around $12,000 and the ATF is promising to destroy the entire shipment.

Special Agent Kelvin Crenshaw said the toys can be easily retro-fitted into dangerous weapons.

"With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun," Crenshaw said.

Brad Martin is furious about the loss of money, for sure, but also in what he now thinks as a loss of his time and the use of government agents to seize toy guns.

"All this manpower, all this time, all this taxpayer money, [it is] wasting my time and my profitability,â€
User avatar
Jebus!
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 285
Age: 30
Images: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:45 pm
Location: Lake Oswego

Postby lilwil » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:40 pm

[quote="Jebus!"]There is an article already posted on the Koin website.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx

[quote]CORNELIUS, Ore. - A local business owner is flabbergasted after a shipment of 30 toy guns for his store was confiscated by ATF agents in Tacoma.

Brad Martin and his son, Ben, sell the Airsoft BB guns from their store in Cornelius where they’ve been in business for seven years.

The Martins said they buy their stock from Taiwan because the merchandise is less expensive. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives seized a shipment of 30 in October. That shipment is worth around $12,000 and the ATF is promising to destroy the entire shipment.

Special Agent Kelvin Crenshaw said the toys can be easily retro-fitted into dangerous weapons.

"With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun," Crenshaw said.

Brad Martin is furious about the loss of money, for sure, but also in what he now thinks as a loss of his time and the use of government agents to seize toy guns.

"All this manpower, all this time, all this taxpayer money, [it is] wasting my time and my profitability,â€
lilwil
Ranger
Ranger
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 724
Age: 38
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:39 am
Location: eugene

Postby Jebus! » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:55 pm

nvm
Last edited by Jebus! on Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:00 am, edited 3 times in total.
User avatar
Jebus!
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 285
Age: 30
Images: 3
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:45 pm
Location: Lake Oswego

Postby Archangel 06 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:57 pm

[quote="lilwil"][quote="Jebus!"]There is an article already posted on the Koin website.

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx

[quote]CORNELIUS, Ore. - A local business owner is flabbergasted after a shipment of 30 toy guns for his store was confiscated by ATF agents in Tacoma.

Brad Martin and his son, Ben, sell the Airsoft BB guns from their store in Cornelius where they’ve been in business for seven years.

The Martins said they buy their stock from Taiwan because the merchandise is less expensive. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives seized a shipment of 30 in October. That shipment is worth around $12,000 and the ATF is promising to destroy the entire shipment.

Special Agent Kelvin Crenshaw said the toys can be easily retro-fitted into dangerous weapons.

"With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun," Crenshaw said.

Brad Martin is furious about the loss of money, for sure, but also in what he now thinks as a loss of his time and the use of government agents to seize toy guns.

"All this manpower, all this time, all this taxpayer money, [it is] wasting my time and my profitability,â€
Nasty wrote:TM preforms so well because all TM's have little fairies living in the hopups and gearboxes that give awesome accuracy, but as soon as you take them apart and modify them, the fairies fly away.

It is common knowledge.
User avatar
Archangel 06
Soldier
Soldier
 
Team: N/A
Posts: 380
Age: 32
Images: 2
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:02 pm
Location: Portland, OR

Postby Junto » Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:08 am

lilwil, shut your bleeding mouth and don't be an asshole. He was posting new information. Learn to bleeding read, douchebag.
Last edited by Junto on Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
Image
User avatar
Junto
1337
1337
 
Team: DRAT
Posts: 7581
Age: 37
Images: 7
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:12 pm
Location: Aloha, Oregon

PreviousNext

Return to Community General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests