US Custom's Seizes "Machine Guns"

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Postby LiquidSnak » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:38 pm

All things aside, having orange tips as per Federal law could likely have avoided this problem all together.
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Postby Martin. » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:08 pm

the customs agent that looked at these said they overlooked the orange tips by considering them "bb guns"
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Postby Switch » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:24 pm

the ATF are dumb!
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Postby Colosseum » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:07 pm

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Postby Hoff » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:54 pm

Reminds me of that British PSA they made about kids converting fake guns to fire live ammo and killing each other with them.
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Postby Archangel 06 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:29 pm

Nasty wrote:Any one read this reply?

"Bad title, but glad they caught up to them and glad they are getting destroyed. There is no legitimate reason to have a fake gun that looks this real, unless you're using it to scare people like a real gun. Just like there is no reason to take off a orange tip and paint a fake gun black, unless you're planning on using it as a real gun (intimidation).

Fake guns shouldn't even be allowed to look this real in the first place, it's illegal to get into the country, but not illegal to have it. More often then not when Police shoot and kill some idiot brandishing a fake gun, it stirs up a frenzy that cops shot a unarmed guy. Just like the Shoreline bank robbery and shooting, there were comments left and right in here about "the Officer should have known it was a fake gun", or "ok so the Officer shot a unarmed man". Fake guns are fake guns and should look so, altering it should be a crime, which it isn't here.

If anything, these are only dangerous as people using them to intimidate people, rob people and commit crimes, just like they do with fake guns painted black. Same difference. Oh and by the way, people are assuming these are airsoft rifles. They aren't. People are looking at a picture and saying "i have all the answers". The barrel isn't fit for 6mm airsoft pellets, which everyone seems to think. They are not airsoft guns, nor are they made of airsoft gun parts."

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Seriously, so what if it is capable of being converted? The guns, by State law, cannot be purchased under the age of 18. SAME AGE AS REAL GUNS! I had to have my dad with me when I bought my rifle.
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Postby Tactical.Monkey » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:40 pm

Further inspection by Alcohol, Firearm and Tobacco agents concluded the guns in their current format were designed to shoot plastic balls, but by replacing a few internal components with machine gun components, the guns would be able to fire live ammunition.

A FEW ??? more like all of the internal components... and even the upper and lower receivers.. and well just about all of the parts. On my KWA at least
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Postby Deathlycobra » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:55 pm

Dumba**es wrote:Further inspection by Alcohol, Firearm and Tobacco agents concluded the guns in their current format were designed to shoot plastic balls, but by replacing a few internal components with machine gun components, the guns would be able to fire live ammunition.


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Postby tingsoon1 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:04 pm

Nasty wrote:Any one read this reply?

"Bad title, but glad they caught up to them and glad they are getting destroyed. There is no legitimate reason to have a fake gun that looks this real, unless you're using it to scare people like a real gun. Just like there is no reason to take off a orange tip and paint a fake gun black, unless you're planning on using it as a real gun (intimidation).

Fake guns shouldn't even be allowed to look this real in the first place, it's illegal to get into the country, but not illegal to have it. More often then not when Police shoot and kill some idiot brandishing a fake gun, it stirs up a frenzy that cops shot a unarmed guy. Just like the Shoreline bank robbery and shooting, there were comments left and right in here about "the Officer should have known it was a fake gun", or "ok so the Officer shot a unarmed man". Fake guns are fake guns and should look so, altering it should be a crime, which it isn't here.

If anything, these are only dangerous as people using them to intimidate people, rob people and commit crimes, just like they do with fake guns painted black. Same difference. Oh and by the way, people are assuming these are airsoft rifles. They aren't. People are looking at a picture and saying "i have all the answers". The barrel isn't fit for 6mm airsoft pellets, which everyone seems to think. They are not airsoft guns, nor are they made of airsoft gun parts."

Christ.


People like this are the reason this was even an issue in the first place. So you're assuming these arent airsoft guns nor made from airsoft gun parts based on your extensive hands-on knowledge of the situation and the actual guns in question. Ok! :?

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Postby Archangel 06 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:30 pm

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/02/24/1085196/potentially-deadly-guns-seized.html

[screaming rant]

OH MY GOSH I AM GOING TO GO FREAKING INSANE!!!! THE HEADLINE IS "POTENTIALLY DEADLY GUNS SEIZED".

SOMEBODY JUST DO SOMETHING TO TEACH THESE PEOPLE COMMON SENSE!

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Postby Zeta Crossfire » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:34 pm

Archangel 06 wrote:http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/02/24/1085196/potentially-deadly-guns-seized.html

[screaming rant]

OH MY GOSH I AM GOING TO GO FREAKING INSANE!!!! THE HEADLINE IS "POTENTIALLY DEADLY GUNS SEIZED".

SOMEBODY JUST DO SOMETHING TO TEACH THESE PEOPLE COMMON SENSE!

[/screaming rant]


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Postby Blackbriar » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:53 pm

They're going to destroy 10,000$ in airsoft GBBR's?????? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Postby CADPAT » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:33 am

these airsoft guns could have been headed for canada where you don't need an orange tip, just a thought...
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Postby Catch22 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:04 am

.....did not have the orange-blaze tip required for all imported toy guns.

The ATF also determined that the shipment did not arrive with the proper permits to enter the United States......


I feel bad for the shop that was waiting on these.
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Postby Raging Hormann » Thu Feb 25, 2010 1:15 am

Hmmm. Sounds like I should go and grab what I can at the shop nearby...
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