Tac-Ops indoor arena Portland, OR

[Seahawk]

I think we should all relax because I got a coupon and they have pizza there.
Who doesn't like pizza?

this just confirmed my worst fears.............

[axisofweasles]

I think we should all relax because I got a coupon and they have pizza there.
Who doesn't like pizza?

My soul just fell out

this just confirmed my worst fears.............

What? That they are trying to appeal to as broad a demographic as possible for the survival of their business? Or that they are appealing to a demographic that you dislike? I think that shooting little kids is fun. Keeps them off my lawn. Maybe instead of judging a book by its coupons, you should wait and see what it is really going to be like before tearing them down.

[Seahawk]

Not tearing them down, more like expressing concern(s).

Yes shooting kids is fun........but it gets old fast (especially if they don't call hits, which they usually don't.)

[McNair]

axisofweasles - Keep in mind a lot of people have been through this a few times. Don't get all defensive against experience.

[axisofweasles]

Not tearing them down, more like expressing concern(s).

Yes shooting kids is fun........but it gets old fast (especially if they don't call hits, which they usually don't.)

I was assured by the owners today that there will be referees to call outs. Your fears... they are like candy to me!

[code789]

(especially if they don't call hits, which they usually don't.)

yep, they do a funny dance but they won't call themselves out so you keep shooting them, and they'll come up to you and whine about the pain after the game

[league 4]

Not tearing them down, more like expressing concern(s).

Yes shooting kids is fun........but it gets old fast (especially if they don't call hits, which they usually don't.)

I was assured by the owners today that there will be referees to call outs. Your fears... they are like candy to me!

Ref's don't solve everything.

[axisofweasles]

axisofweasles - Keep in mind a lot of people have been through this a few times. Don't get all defensive against experience.

Thanks for putting that into perspective for me!

Taking a step back

[ScaredShooter]

I don't know what makes me happier, experienced AP members getting together to advise and hopefully positively influence a new CQB arena, or RiotingCows finding a pizza coupon.

To those of you gents in the elite trials group, good luck and make it count for us. Use all methods of coercion, money bribing, and always remind them that you represent 8 million experienced airsofters.

It would be nice to have a decent place for CQB around, I never gathered the courage or gas money to try TacTac.

[DJ]

I don't know what makes me happier, experienced AP members getting together to advise and hopefully positively influence a new CQB arena, or RiotingCows finding a pizza coupon.

To those of you gents in the elite trials group, good luck and make it count for us. Use all methods of coercion, money bribing, and always remind them that you represent 8 million experienced airsofters.

It would be nice to have a decent place for CQB around, I never gathered the courage or gas money to try TacTac.

Regarding your statement...to all of you, please fwd some input on your ideas as to what would make a good experience at this location. I have found that people will frequently have ideas that did not occur to me or other people responsible for making stuff happen. All will be evaluated for practicality and $$$ feasibility. The goal is to help these folks make their new place a top rate tactical scenario facility instead of just a shooting gallery to shoot at non hit calling wet behind the ears kids! If I wind up going, I will take my SLR and post pics on return.

[axisofweasles]

Great idea, DJ. Im on it. Thank you!

[Steve]

If it were a guided walkthrough of the facility where we could ask questions and make suggestions, I'd be totally down.

If we were making notes on graph paper and trying to figure out the best way to get useable training while still having an appealing environment for players, I'd be down.

If it were a matter of laying tape down on an empty floor and doing a couple dozen dry runs to see what angles are likely to work, get an idea of where the potential choke points and fatal funnels would be, move the tape and try it again, I'd be down.

If we were moving around prebuilt wall segments and using light sources to mark angles of cover versus angles of fire in order to optimize the arena, I'd probably be down.

If it's playtesting an arena that is already built and too late to really influence, I'd probably pass. I've done a good bit of shoot house layout and design, and it is a lot of fun for me. Running through it is also fun, but it's a different kind of fun.

[Chairmanlao]

Great to see another airsoft place, store, arena, whatever open up on THIS side of the river.

But a its been said.
The missions seem to complex. -__-
I just want to get into the game, shoot and get shot at.

"Open arena: 3 hours of play time, 9 missions will be offered"

All Missions include an M4 AEG, Face Mask & 500 ammunition
1 Mission $7.50
3 Missions $17.50
5 Missions $25.00

How much is it to just, play. I don't need a rental. O.O

[DJ]

If it were a guided walkthrough of the facility where we could ask questions and make suggestions, I'd be totally down.

If we were making notes on graph paper and trying to figure out the best way to get useable training while still having an appealing environment for players, I'd be down.

If it were a matter of laying tape down on an empty floor and doing a couple dozen dry runs to see what angles are likely to work, get an idea of where the potential choke points and fatal funnels would be, move the tape and try it again, I'd be down.

If we were moving around prebuilt wall segments and using light sources to mark angles of cover versus angles of fire in order to optimize the arena, I'd probably be down.

If it's playtesting an arena that is already built and too late to really influence, I'd probably pass. I've done a good bit of shoot house layout and design, and it is a lot of fun for me. Running through it is also fun, but it's a different kind of fun.

Well, here's how I see it. Some people who have spent their own time and money to open a business for profit, are interested in some input on how to make it better. If I had the place and money to build my own, I'd be one demanding SOB. Since I have neither of the above, I am willing to give some time / input to attempt to make this operation as good as I can help it to be. That way when I drag my sorry a$$ to their business, I can not be bored out of my skull in shoot em up land with a disco ball and 20 stacks of tires and old barrels........or at least I will give it a shot.

[ScaredShooter]

The goal is to help these folks make their new place a top rate tactical scenario facility instead of just a shooting gallery to shoot at non hit calling wet behind the ears kids!

This would be fantastic, so whatever you think helps accomplish that goal and helps to create a decent CQB arena, I give you all my hopes and trust for that.