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Postby Osprey » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:49 am

Ivan Daylovich wrote:Nasty, stop making fun of the mentally handicapped. It's not cool.
Yeah. Don't to that its not there fault there retarded.
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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:49 am

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Any damage or long term costs are the fault of the person who decided to escalate the situation by calling them.


This is a foolish statement.


So, on halloween, yes, the faculty should have realized some dumbass would show up with a toy gun for a costume. But on all other days, they really have to go balls to the walls with reaction, because the 1 of 1000 times they don't, they will either be sued by a parent group, loose their jobs, or it will be a real gun.

What your saying is, if i see a gun at school at call the cops, i should pay the fines, bail, lawyer fees, ect? Not the idiot who brought the gun?

Honestly, in todays day every little shit should know that a gun, be it nerf, airsoft, paintball or noise maker is not allowed at school, period.

Even things having to do with guns is not allowed, my 8 yr old son had a pocket full of EMPTY spent .22 shells and forgot they were in his coat when he went to school on the next monday, i was called to pick him up because of it. I promptly told the principle that he over reacted and was an idiot for it. But i can see why they have zero tolerance.


First, most time I go shooting I end up with spent shells in my pockets. Your principal did overreact. Zero tolerance is silly.

Second, once you get faculty involved they are like the cops - following procedure and doing their job.

The person at fault. The one who escalated the situation. The one that created the scenario where bail, fines and lawyer fees come into play is the one that took a harmless situation and told the teacher about it. that is the person who made an individual decision and should have his face kicked in. Unfortunately the system does not assign the costs to him - a market failure.

Somehow the faculty found out about the empty shells in your kid's pocket. Whomever told them, another kid or your own, is the reason that you had to come pick him up. You probably told your kid he did the right thing by telling them! LOLOL.
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Postby Jester316 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:51 pm

Evil Zergling137 wrote:
Matt wrote:I sort of agree with him and I sort of don't - depends on the situation. If somebody claims a student has a "gun" - and as a school principle you do not know if it's real or not, you really don't have many options but to get law enforcement involved. In fact, it's probably required. However, if somebody said "Little Billy brought an AIRSOFT gun to school today..." well in that case, I'd just bring him into the office and dig a confession out of him, then have his parents pick him AND the Airsoft gun up... hand out a suspension and tell him never to bring it again.


Yeah that would be the correct way to handle it. Also if someone were to bring a real (loaded) firearm into a classroom as a student (and showing it off) then it would be reasonable to conclude that there was an intent to use (or likelihood of using) that firearm so bringing police into the situation would be reasonable. It would not be (much of) an escalation.

I do disagree that you can't tell the difference. People know what is going on and you should be able to profile pretty easily the small portion of the class that could actually bring real loaded firearms in a way that could actually result in the use of them.



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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Jester316 wrote:
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Matt wrote:I sort of agree with him and I sort of don't - depends on the situation. If somebody claims a student has a "gun" - and as a school principle you do not know if it's real or not, you really don't have many options but to get law enforcement involved. In fact, it's probably required. However, if somebody said "Little Billy brought an AIRSOFT gun to school today..." well in that case, I'd just bring him into the office and dig a confession out of him, then have his parents pick him AND the Airsoft gun up... hand out a suspension and tell him never to bring it again.


Yeah that would be the correct way to handle it. Also if someone were to bring a real (loaded) firearm into a classroom as a student (and showing it off) then it would be reasonable to conclude that there was an intent to use (or likelihood of using) that firearm so bringing police into the situation would be reasonable. It would not be (much of) an escalation.

I do disagree that you can't tell the difference. People know what is going on and you should be able to profile pretty easily the small portion of the class that could actually bring real loaded firearms in a way that could actually result in the use of them.



Profiling will result in a multi-million dollar lawsuit.


No it wouldn't, that's silly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offender_profiling
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Postby Ranger Commie » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:20 pm

Jester316 wrote:
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Matt wrote:Something smart

I do disagree that you can't tell the difference. People know what is going on and you should be able to profile pretty easily the small portion of the class that could actually bring real loaded firearms in a way that could actually result in the use of them.

Profiling will result in a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

Not to mention the guy who brought the airsoft gun was likly already tagged as "EXTREAMLY STUPID" or "violent".
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Postby Snowman » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:31 pm

How old are you, really? Because I doubt you're actually 27, at this point...
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Postby Payback » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:46 pm

Snowman wrote:How old are you, really? Because I doubt you're actually 27, at this point...


+1

I was actually thinking that same thing when i read the comments.
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Postby Transition » Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:58 pm

Yeah pretty sure I am not allowed to profile when performing le stuff at work... maybe I should start on my next boarding, ill just tell them some guy on the interwebs said it was cool when my a$$ is sitting in court for it.
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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:04 pm

rbm33 wrote:
Snowman wrote:How old are you, really? Because I doubt you're actually 27, at this point...


+1

I was actually thinking that same thing when i read the comments.


The site does the math... not me! I think its correct, but I suppose I could ask my wife.

PS: I'm not seeing any counter arguments.
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Postby Switchback » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:10 pm

Nasty wrote:
Ivan Daylovich wrote:Nasty, stop making fun of the mentally handicapped. It's not cool.


I can't help it. This guy makes Michele Bachmann look like f***ing Einstein.


Okay, couldn't resist. I was all ready to disagree, but screw it, I don't have a say in this now anyways.

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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:13 pm

Really, how are you guys so sheltered that you haven't seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

You really don't read the news?

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/ ... who_d.html

Those parents killed their kid. It would have been murder if they had planned it. Murder by cop.
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Postby Ranger Commie » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:23 pm

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Nasty wrote:
Because arguing with idiots is generally counterproductive and a waste of time, which is why we're not bother to counter you excellent belief that you should never call the cops, especially when someone brings what could be a firearm to school.

Thank you for getting back on track Sorta :D
Back to the idiot who brought the gun to school. Why? What was he thinking? That bringing an airsoft gun to school would make him cool because it didnt. It made him retarded. In every sense of the word. And Where the F*ck are his parents. Honestly.
Idiotic parents wrote: What's that Billy you want to bring a gun to school okay! Make sure to flash it around to everyone at school!!!!

Idiots...
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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:38 pm

There were airsoft guns at school all the time when I went to HS. Usually people just kept them in their car (hopefully in the trunk but not always). They were spotted a couple times but people were more adult back then, not like you children.
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Postby Evil Zergling137 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:42 pm

Nasty wrote:
Evil Zergling137 wrote:PS: I'm not seeing any counter arguments.


Because arguing with idiots is generally counterproductive and a waste of time, which is why we're not bother to counter you excellent belief that you should never call the cops, especially when someone brings what could be a firearm to school.


What could be? Thats not what I said lol. If you read his post that is not what he said either.

Mcluvin wrote:Just last week at my school( Oregon City High School), there was also a freshman who brought an airsoft gun to school. Some more responsible kids tipped off the faculty which was a good thing to do in my opinion. Why would someone decide to bring a replica to school? Do they want to become infamous and attract bad attention? People that do this need to get their sh*t straight.


Oh and look at what I actually did say:

Evil Zergling137 wrote:
Matt wrote:I sort of agree with him and I sort of don't - depends on the situation. If somebody claims a student has a "gun" - and as a school principle you do not know if it's real or not, you really don't have many options but to get law enforcement involved. In fact, it's probably required. However, if somebody said "Little Billy brought an AIRSOFT gun to school today..." well in that case, I'd just bring him into the office and dig a confession out of him, then have his parents pick him AND the Airsoft gun up... hand out a suspension and tell him never to bring it again.


Yeah that would be the correct way to handle it. Also if someone were to bring a real (loaded) firearm into a classroom as a student (and showing it off) then it would be reasonable to conclude that there was an intent to use (or likelihood of using) that firearm so bringing police into the situation would be reasonable. It would not be (much of) an escalation.

I do disagree that you can't tell the difference. People know what is going on and you should be able to profile pretty easily the small portion of the class that could actually bring real loaded firearms in a way that could actually result in the use of them.


Can't argue with people that don't actually read the thread.
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Postby Icepick » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:50 pm

Reaper XIV wrote:
Ivan Daylovich wrote:Nasty, stop making fun of the mentally handicapped. It's not cool.
Yeah. Don't to that its not there fault there retarded.


Irony. :?
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