"The Farm Airsoft"

[Cap n pickles]

I didn't want to hi jack there OP thread, so i made this one.


To the owners and Employees of "The Farm"

I am really interested in checking out the new field, but there is a problem.

Ive never seen a skirm that was 10$ The only game i played that was 10$ was a series of test games with very attractive game play with some well put together props. (i.e. weenie feast)

Also, The 25$ "Op" you have for May 29th, i think its over priced. That very same day, Brandon, and Alex are hosting a Mini OP, with Camo restrictions, and Mag Restrictions.

I honestly, Don't see why someone would pay 25$ to go to you're skirm/game with game rules looser than my grandma.


I don't wanna seem to be a hater, with my Haterade, but you are charging way to much for way to less.

AP, Discuss.

[Wombat Six]

Don't like it? Don't attend. You people spend hundreds (in some cases, thousands) of dollars on guns, radios, gear, and food, then phony pony about the cover charges. Go ahead and take a look at what paintball players are paying to use a field for a day.

[Moparspanky]

Clearly voting with your wallet (ie. go or don't go) is the way to express your pleasure or displeasure with the cost. Cap'n Pickles is trying to get a stimulating conversation going regarding the cost, as in, constructive feedback, which the event coordinators have asked for multiple times.

[Mini-Marine]

I don't understand the all the bitching about pricing, if you don't like it, you aren't required to go.

There are plenty of games I don't go to, I don't see the need to post in those game threads and explain the reason I'm not going.

[MitchD]

Don't like it? Don't attend. You people spend hundreds (in some cases, thousands) of dollars on guns, radios, gear, and food, then phony pony about the cover charges. Go ahead and take a look at what paintball players are paying to use a field for a day.

+1

Don't like it don't go. Stop trying to tell people what they should or should not do. ESPECIALLY since YOU, by self admission, have not been to the field or to any game run by the host(s). People should go out of their way to help a new quality field get established instead of phony pony about a few $.

Also, feel free to name off the full time Airsoft only fields, that are professionally run, that we can go to in Oregon. Then perhaps consider why you should be willing to support someone who is trying to make a nice play to play for airsofters.

[KA-BAR]

"dont like it, then dont attend"

i like that attitude. in fact i like it sooo much i intend to use this tactic fully.

so matt you are so fired up about this, why dont you host a AP game out there and charge your standard pricing. see how many fill up the slots, probably alot, why....because you are a known promoter, and will provide what you say you will. but i dont see you rushing to the farm, to set up any events in the near future....and why is that. because you dont know jack squat about the field owner or its capabities. you would think that you as a major promoter, and site owner, would be taking more of a vested intrest in what is going on, who is who, and other general info in the community you have fostered. you sound like a parent who is wondering why unruly children are delinquent. as a promoter you should be using your voice, instead of capitulation.

ABT was very successful for what it was, and they never ever gouged this community for a dime. it was $5 a day DONATION....it was not a required fee. of any field owner in this community, it is X and scrounge who have done the most and asked the least for all of us. so if you the farm want a example to follow, i am suggesting this. trying to make money off airsofters, when noone knows who you are, and you have no accountability to us......who is to say you are here today , but will be gone tommorow like so many other field owners.

i'd much rather spend my time in places like scappoose, estecada, or timber vernonia to be quite honest.


this field will never realize its full potential untill it takes the time to intergrate into this community as a field that is know much like ABT was.

now alot of people are going to say that, this field cost money, we took time to get insurance. hey thats great, and was totally unnecessary, because AP and BSP to name the top promoters, already have carriers, that cover thier events......you getting unessesary insurance was so that you could promote your own games, and hey that is fine, but you are a complete unnown promoter, and this community has had a very very bad experience with unknowns.

so you could disregard my suggestions..... host all the 25 dollar skirms you want to this summer and get a mild turn out....or you could host tons of free and $5 dollar skirms....get the community buzz up and hope to attract some major promoter to put on a premier event on your location, and then, maybe then this community will be ready to shell out money to you.


its really up to you how you approach this, and ultimately how this community will view you.


trust me when i say it takes maybe one or two bad events to give your field a bad rep and you will loose THOUSAND of dollars, instead of make that money.

its really that simple.

[Matt]

You could just as easily just email them via the contact info on their own website or send them a PM.

[KA-BAR]

Also, feel free to name off the full time Airsoft only fields, that are professionally run, that we can go to in Oregon. Then perhaps consider why you should be willing to support someone who is trying to make a nice play to play for airsofters.

PTOC.....closed
ABT closed
Strikezone....CLOSED

i can go one with a few others....most of these places except ABT were forced to shut down because of lack of participation and revenue loss.

TAC TAC is on the verge i imagine also.




to be clear, i am not saying your field sucks or you suck....quite the contrary, i would love to show up and play on the field, but i wont do it at those prices right off the bat, when i dont know you or who you are, there is no accountability.



this is all constructive critisizim inorder for you to be successful.

[Matt]

I'm not fired up. I just think you guys are being over dramatic and seeking attention. You probably weren't going to go to the game anyway. Ya'll are just talking to hear your heads rattle.

It's a free country, you can host your own game if you want.

[MitchD]

More the reason to help a new field get off the ground. eh?:D

There is no way running an airsoft field is a high profit business, which is why they are hard to keep open. A little higher fee would be well worth it to me to keep a field open. IF is worth it to play there and well run. I'd be happy to pay an extra few $ to not have to crawl around in Paintball goop. So I am more than willing to give it a chance, and check it out.

[Cap n pickles]

Ive been playing Paint ball for 4 years, and have seen this same thing.

Im not new to this, when i expect a high price tag i expect a high quality event, but the fact is, i doubt it will be. You are using arm bands and a very loose game rule setting. its not worth 25$.

I dont have to attend, but i would if the price was right, instead of having only 30 people show up, 60 people would if the price was lower, and you would make more money. (25$ Vs. 15$ Per head)

Its a fact.

Why do people show up to 25$ games hosted by APST or BSP, or other known event promoters (AAS)?
Because they have been doing it for a while now, and people know what to expect.
Alex and brandon have been in this community for a while and can host a 5$ milsim game and people will know what to expect. (Save that for another thread)

[KA-BAR]

i am really not being over dramatic matt, and i dont talk to hear my head rattle. i am definatelyy not seeking attention.

what i am doing is trying to make a new field owner see how to keep attendance up, make him some money, and see this community grow. by voiceing my opinion, which some people agree with, makes for a good discussion, and hopfully gives the field owner what they asked for...constructive critisizim.


id like to think that some of the disscussions i start or participate in are the driving factor as to why this community is one of the best airsoft communities in the nation, if not the world.

i am not in the buisness of driving field owners out of buisness.

ask the owners of ABT. everytime i went i donated my $5......then we had a swap meet, and i decided to donate, and gift ABT with a Killbucket custom LMG so they could have a firebase with a portabale machine gun. that was over a $300 donation, given freely so that the field may benifit. so to say i am a drama queen and just stirring up shit, is completely wrong, misinformed or just assnine.

after that donation X or scrounge never ever once asked me for a dime, and when i did ask where the donation jar was to pay my $5 they would just hide it from me anyways.

that is called supporting a field owner as far as i can tell.

[Matt]

Morgan - it's not always about YOU.

I'm just talking about folks in general, and about what I see on game threads all the time. It's annoying that they get derailed constantly. There's a time and a place to discuss this stuff. It's better in a separate thread.

[KA-BAR]

agreed.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Man, you guys get so touchy about constructive criticism.