Common Terrorist/Insurgent Weaponry

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Common Terrorist/Insurgent Weaponry

Postby Matt » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:13 pm

So I'm curious, outside of the AK47 platform - what are some other common guns used by terrorists. For realism sake, if you were going to impose a list of guns allowed to be used by insurgents or terrorist forces - what would those guns be? I'm hoping to narrow it down to the most commonly used platforms in third-world countries.

Or, perhaps a better way to phrase the question is - what guns should they NOT have? Obviously the SCAR and G36 come to mind. My assumption would be that modern platforms are the rare ones.

Hoping to hear from some of the guys who know from experience, rather than somebody who watches a lot of movies. Thanks!
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Postby Variable » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:24 pm

Its different for any group. militaryphotos.net often has pictures threads of recovered weapons.
FARC rebels use the AKs, and Armalites/European NATO weapons that they take from the government.
Hamas uses everything, including Armalites from the IDF, theres even been some exotic European weapons.
I'd say the 80/20 rule applies. 80% of the weapons will be AKs, and 20% will be stuff looted from whatever government they're fighting against.
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Postby JD_Shadow1 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:28 pm

As far as weapons that terrorist(world wide) use besides Ak-platforms it could literally be anything they can get their hands on. Some of the most common being stuff the pull off of Our soldiers and the blimey British pmcs.

but to name the most common stuff: M60, 249 SAWs, G3(with od furnishing lol), Galil, 1911, the PKM, and then you also have the Chinese type56 but thats still pretty much an ak lol
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Postby KA-BAR » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:30 pm

id say yea to the AK and all....but

in places like africa the galil is very prevelant.

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the weapons platform helps alot with a impression.
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Postby Praetorian » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:42 pm

You really forget the famous VZ.61 Scorpion and the RPG of course :-).

And I think they never use the L85A or Famas :-)
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Postby Nocte » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:44 pm

I'd imagine it'd be lots of low-maintenance, inexpensive guns with cheap ammo. I think that's what makes the AK so prevalent.
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Postby Android » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:02 pm

To me guns that terrorists & insurgents would use are items that are surplus and discontinued due to a country upgrading to a newer platform. CETME's, G3's, FAL's, Galil's, come to mind along the ubiquitous AK. If we wanted to go really old-school we'd also have Garands & SMLE's kicking about too.
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Postby CalvinB » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:13 pm

anything that has been discontinued by NATO countries. I've even seen images of freedom fighters with AUG's next to a dude with a Kar.98. If it goes bang and is cheap, you're good to go.
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Postby Variable » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:16 pm

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Postby Windstalker » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:19 pm

I have seen photo's of the British Enfield being used by the taliban. Also the Russian PPSH has even poked its head in and out. Like everyone has said. Anything they can get their grimy little hands on. Of course they love dropping Mortars. One of their favorites is they will put a chunck of ice in the mortar tube then the mortar on top so the ice melts and then they are already gone by the time it drops.
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Postby Variable » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:27 pm

The Mexicartels get weapons stolen from the US, bought from corrupt .mex government armories, stolen from the government, smuggled up from Central America, etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Artemioandfriends.jpg
Shining Path. In that picture you can see Galils, AKs, US and Russian made web gear.

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Postby CalvinB » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:37 pm

Why do Mexicans deep relief engrave and gold plate EVERYTHING?
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Postby congofal » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:26 pm

They do it to show off how much money they have , like gold and diamonds on singers teeth over here.

Oh and there at least 5 FAMAS in Taliban hands .
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Postby Shiloh » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:51 pm

This is just me coming from a few books read, but I've seen pictures of some Mujahideen with Mosin-Nagant 91/30's, and a few with the british Jungle carbine. (MK1,MKV, I'm not sure. Clarification would be appreciated) Plus the standard AK's, RPK's, SVD's, and the random Tokorev thrown in for kicks.

I do remember seeing an old picture of some Taliban fighters in Afghanistan during the 80's with a Katyusha. That must have been scary as f**k for the Russians, along with very damn ironic.
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Postby Steve » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:59 pm

I ran across everything from old black powder rifles to AK-74s.

Ran across 3 ppsh's, dozens of AKs, a couple RPKs, dshkas, and PKMs.

RPDs were more common than RPKs

AKs were pretty common, most with full wood stocks.

Almost all of the Afghans hated the CZ-58 (it required occasional maintenance, and proprietary mags), so those were only generally found in the hands of gov't forces.

RPG-7d's were freaking everywhere.

Shotguns were pretty rare. Heck, when we tried to give them Mossberg 590a1's with 14" barrels, they shot 'em and gave them right back. Pistols were pretty rare on the other team. Mostly either Tokarevs or Makarovs. Or cheap knockoffs of them, at any rate.

My information is dated, however. Southern Afghanistan 2006-2008.
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