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Postby Jester316 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:41 pm

Parents grounding and unaware? Sounds like he attempted to get around the 18+ to buy a gun.

Give him money back and tell us who it was so we can be aware of him for future dealings.
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Postby Falcon7 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:45 pm

Jester316 wrote:Sounds like he attempted to get around the 18+ to buy a gun.


He wasn't buying a gun, mags n stuff.

If you give your money to somebody 18+ and they buy the gun and give it to you is that still legal? Cause technically you didn't buy a gun, kinda similar having your parents buy it for you.
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Postby sasquatch » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:49 pm

According to small claims court’s for WA a verbal agreement is almost as good as one written on paper. He had been notified 90 days prior that things would be sold.
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Postby sasquatch » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:07 pm

It also states for WA that you need a minimum of $1000 to even take it that far. As far as me selling his stuff for $65 when he paid $168 was because he refused to buy any of the items that more experienced players told him to. The resell of crap tactical gear is obvious.
The money is of really no concern to me; it’s just money but this should be a luring experience not a slap on the wrist. He’ll never forget losing 168$ do to stupidity. I want be keeping the money for myself either way.

Some of my options are to give his parents the money:
Not give him the money and giving it to a charity in his name:

Either way his parents and him will be getting the documentation that I have been keeping during this time, like times I have tried contacting him, complete conversations, as well as witnesses that have given me written confirmation of events and calls.
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Postby Dalb » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:20 pm

Don't be stupid about this, if you guys had a written agreement or verbal agreement saying "I will sell your stuff if you don't get back to me/ Come get it within 90 days" and if its verbal, he will agree that you and him said it and agreed on it. But if you guys never agreed, give him the stuff he paid for. If you find a wallet, notify the police, and wait X amount of time, sure keep it. But you knew who's stuff it was, you have/had no right to sell it.
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Postby sasquatch » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:35 pm

Cording to the Washington state legislature under the RCW I do. he's 17 not 12.
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Postby Dalb » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:37 pm

Well then why did you make this post?
Someone should lock it before it gets out of hand.
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Postby sasquatch » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:38 pm

Asked the same question on some other websites and I got an answer that way.
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Re: legally do i have the right

Postby Nails » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:53 pm

sasquatch wrote:Gun bag, bb’s, 2x M4 mags, and sling


you couldn't hold on to this stuff for longer than three months? That seems absurd, unless you live in a car.

you should give him his money back.
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Postby lilwil » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:04 pm

3 months without hearing hide nor tail from the person? thats a long a$$ time. i would have just gave the crap away, but I do not see why you cant sell it if its your prerogative.
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Postby Bigfoot » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:08 pm

ogrejager wrote:Wait. Am I reading this correctly? The guy paid you $168, you ordered the stuff, he was slow in coming by to pick it up, so you sold it--AFTER HE'D PAID YOU--for $68, and now you want us to tell you that you're justified in that?

Um. No. Give the guy his money back, say "sorry," and go on with your life.

Seriously, don't be a tool. He gave you the money. I don't care how long it took--that was his stuff. You agreed to order it and give it to him. It's too bad it took so long, but HE PAID FOR IT--IT'S HIS STUFF.

I admit, I might be confused on this as you misuse "thier,' "thier," and "there" a lot, but if I understand what you're saying...what I said above. Damn, kid, be a person.


I 100% agree. Also part of being a good person is treating others fairly. Not dicking them over because you couldn't wait for them. Why couldn't you have just tossed the shit in your closet and let it sit for him? Three months was a long time for him to get it but you had now reason to just sell it off. Not cool.
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Postby phiz » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:27 pm

Give him his money back or you might be reincarnated as an intestinal parasite.
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Postby Eyes On » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:33 pm

Doing what is "legal" and what is "right" are not the same things. The law is the lowest acceptable standard.

Relevant statutes without modification of precedent can be found in Chapter 63.29 RCW.
Title 63.29.020, 030, possibly 120, 260, 340 and 370 would be the subs you'd be most likely to find the answer in.

I will save you some homework: You failed to meet the legal standard in the State of Washington. You failed to obtain a perfected agreement, and failed to provide recorded notice before disposing of the property. You owe him some money.
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Re: legally do i have the right

Postby sasquatch » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:37 pm

Nails wrote:
sasquatch wrote:Gun bag, bb’s, 2x M4 mags, and sling


you couldn't hold on to this stuff for longer than three months? That seems absurd, unless you live in a car.

you should give him his money back.


It's not my junk for one for two one call isnt that hard or text or email or for god sakes write a letter, just pick up the phone and call. Every other person picked up there stuff within a week of it being delivered.
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Postby DJ » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:58 pm

There is a civil procedure for "abandoned property", Something about advertising in the paper etc..... did you in fact pay for the items and he owes you or did he pay for the items. If you paid for the items its your property. In Oregon there is no finders keepers in the ORS. There is a crime theft of lost or mislaid property but I dont think it applies. It would appear you have a contractual or civil matter. Contact the DAs office in your county ( phone call) and they can tell you what the current statute regarding abandoned property is.
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