Upgrading my G&G M14

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Postby CommieHunter » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:53 pm

Some good solid advice here.

If it hasn't been said, the M14 will run up to a 509mm barrel. I would recommend a 6.03 for consistent accuracy. It'll be better than the stock barrel if you get a quality one.
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Postby Cloudyrains » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:05 pm

CommieHunter wrote:Some good solid advice here.

If it hasn't been said, the M14 will run up to a 509mm barrel. I would recommend a 6.03 for consistent accuracy. It'll be better than the stock barrel if you get a quality one.


The thing is that G&G supposedly puts in a 6.03 tightbore in it, but the barrel length is 520mm and I cant find a barrel that isn't specialized for the G&G/CA m14s. I could order one of those, but they are very expensive and there is no 6.03. The bbs are pretty accurate, I just need to fix the hop up and squeeze some more fps out of the gun.

As always thanks for the help :)
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Postby Sho Nuff » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:11 pm

If interested, I have a G&G m14 RIS, scope mount, midcaps, 3point sling, and other goodies that were on my G&G m14 that is no longer functioning. Let me know.
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Postby Payback » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:11 pm

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The wires are fine? Have you opened yours up and looked at it? :?



Yes, there is a black one and a red one. I plug in my battery and get around 18rnds per second at 350fps on a stock gun. Shoots out to 200ft easily.

It's an m14, i'm not looking for 35 rnds per second, nor am i looking for a hair trigger on an airsoft gun. I have other guns that have smaller wires in it that have lasted 80k round so far with no troubles.

Like i said, if your running a 9.6v or 8.4v battery, no worries. Worry about it when/if it fails.

I would by far look to change the bucking/nub and airseal stuff way before i changed out the wires.
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Postby league 4 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:23 pm

Cloudyrains wrote:
CommieHunter wrote:Some good solid advice here.

If it hasn't been said, the M14 will run up to a 509mm barrel. I would recommend a 6.03 for consistent accuracy. It'll be better than the stock barrel if you get a quality one.


The thing is that G&G supposedly puts in a 6.03 tightbore in it, but the barrel length is 520mm and I cant find a barrel that isn't specialized for the G&G/CA m14s. I could order one of those, but they are very expensive and there is no 6.03. The bbs are pretty accurate, I just need to fix the hop up and squeeze some more fps out of the gun.

As always thanks for the help :)


You do realize any 509mm tightbore will work fine in your M14 right? Who cares if it's 11mm shorter. And the G&G "tightbores" are no better than stock barrels.
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Postby Cloudyrains » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:37 pm

league 4 wrote:You do realize any 509mm tightbore will work fine in your M14 right? Who cares if it's 11mm shorter. And the G&G "tightbores" are no better than stock barrels.


That's good to know. Like I said, I am really new to upgrading airsoft guns so I don't know things like that. I was worried that the barrel wouldn't fit the outer shell or something if it was shorter.

Oh and Iampc, I might be interested in some of the midcaps. And could you link your RIS/take a picture of it please? Thanks everyone.
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Postby Minerva » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:55 pm

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Minerva wrote:
The wires are fine? Have you opened yours up and looked at it? :?



Yes, there is a black one and a red one. I plug in my battery and get around 18rnds per second at 350fps on a stock gun. Shoots out to 200ft easily.

It's an m14, i'm not looking for 35 rnds per second, nor am i looking for a hair trigger on an airsoft gun. I have other guns that have smaller wires in it that have lasted 80k round so far with no troubles.

Like i said, if your running a 9.6v or 8.4v battery, no worries. Worry about it when/if it fails.

I would by far look to change the bucking/nub and airseal stuff way before i changed out the wires.


It's not a durability question it's an efficiency one. If he is opening the box why not take 5 seconds to solder on 3 wires? And I doubt you have guns with smaller then 20 AWG wiring..That wire would get sooo hot..
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Postby CommieHunter » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:50 pm

Cloudyrains wrote:
CommieHunter wrote:Some good solid advice here.

If it hasn't been said, the M14 will run up to a 509mm barrel. I would recommend a 6.03 for consistent accuracy. It'll be better than the stock barrel if you get a quality one.


The thing is that G&G supposedly puts in a 6.03 tightbore in it, but the barrel length is 520mm and I cant find a barrel that isn't specialized for the G&G/CA m14s. I could order one of those, but they are very expensive and there is no 6.03. The bbs are pretty accurate, I just need to fix the hop up and squeeze some more fps out of the gun.

As always thanks for the help :)


They do advertise most of their guns as having a tightbore, but from what I've seen, they're not quite as nice as MadBull or other brand aftermarket ones.

As mentioned previously, I think the MadBull blue bucking is one of the best out there, and the H-nub probably won't get you any better results than a decent standard nub.
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Postby Cloudyrains » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:22 pm

Hey, just got back from installing the hopup. Took a while (first time installing a hopup) but I managed to get it on and situated right without ripping it. I had to remove the pin for the arm to install the nub, but it didn't take too much hassle. I test fired it a little today and BB's are still curving after about 40 feet. Granted I only have .20 inch at home, so its possible there was a little consistent wind blowing them off course. The other problem is is that the hop-up is waaaay too effective. I can turn it on just a tiny bit and the bb's go flying upward after about 7 feet.

Anyways, what can I do to fix it? Is it because of the barrel? Does it sound like the hopup isn't installed right? Is it entirely unrelated?
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Postby Minerva » Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:30 pm

Cloudyrains wrote:Hey, just got back from installing the hopup. Took a while (first time installing a hopup) but I managed to get it on and situated right without ripping it. I had to remove the pin for the arm to install the nub, but it didn't take too much hassle. I test fired it a little today and BB's are still curving after about 40 feet. Granted I only have .20 inch at home, so its possible there was a little consistent wind blowing them off course. The other problem is is that the hop-up is waaaay too effective. I can turn it on just a tiny bit and the bb's go flying upward after about 7 feet.

Anyways, what can I do to fix it? Is it because of the barrel? Does it sound like the hopup isn't installed right? Is it entirely unrelated?


What BB's are you using?
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Postby Cloudyrains » Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:19 pm

some .20s I got from riddick at rez 4. I'm planning on buying more at the horde, im thinking on .28s. What's a good weight for a DMR?
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Postby Minerva » Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:11 pm

Cloudyrains wrote:some .20s I got from riddick at rez 4. I'm planning on buying more at the horde, im thinking on .28s. What's a good weight for a DMR?


Well I play with Bioval .27's-.3's

You usually want a heavier weight BB for a DMR
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Postby Payback » Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:25 pm

I use riddicks .28 bios in all my guns, they work great. You may need to change the nub to stop it from curving.
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Postby Cloudyrains » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:36 pm

rbm33 wrote:I use riddicks .28 bios in all my guns, they work great. You may need to change the nub to stop it from curving.


Okay, I bet an h-nub would offer less resistance and would probably fix the curving. I hope I can take the pin out of the nub arm again without it losing grip :P. Thanks for the help guys :)
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Postby league 4 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:02 pm

Cloudyrains wrote:
rbm33 wrote:I use riddicks .28 bios in all my guns, they work great. You may need to change the nub to stop it from curving.


Okay, I bet an h-nub would offer less resistance and would probably fix the curving. I hope I can take the pin out of the nub arm again without it losing grip :P. Thanks for the help guys :)


Madbull buckings don't work well with H nubs, and in my experience, dont work well with the thick, hard nubs they come with. You need a thin-ish one for the best results with madbull buckings.
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