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Postby pulsipher » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:07 pm

Nec wrote:I think this is every kids dream, to make a "DMR" gun from scratch... What I wanto know is where do they get the money? Mommy or Daddy?

I have a SPR Upper for my G&P set, I consider it a DMR
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Postby Minerva » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:14 pm

pulsipher wrote:I have a SPR Upper for my G&P set, I consider it a DMR


Long barrel =/= DMR.

I can slap a 400mm barrel extension and barrel on my MP5k and call it a DMR by that standard ;)
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Postby B.O.P. Hawk » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:39 pm

But the parts ARE compatible. That's the point...

When I shoot for a DMR, I want maximum quickness in trigger response, right at the brink of 450 fps, and be able to hit targets while i am still out of their range. I'm not the spray-n-pray type, hence my bolt, but i do want an AEG and I consider the Marksman's role to be among the most fun on the field. It is very intimidating to come up against a rifle of such power, coupled with a relatively high rate of fire.


By the way, Nec, I get my money from my Job. Were you getting paid over Minimum Wage when you were 16?
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Postby Minerva » Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:36 pm

B.O.P. War Hawk wrote:But the parts ARE compatible. That's the point...


You said you are trying to fit a standard cylinder and piston into an EV2. That is not compatible.

A normal sized cylinder fits to the back of the cylinder spot if the head is in, but it does not go all the way to the front.



By the way, Nec, I get my money from my Job. Were you getting paid over Minimum Wage when you were 16?


Let's not start this.. :roll:
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Postby B.O.P. Hawk » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:55 pm

If I use the long cylinder, the cylinder head will be sticking back about %15 farther than normal, which will allow for use of a standard sized piston and sector.
I have already tested it with parts from another gun. It works.
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Postby Minerva » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:18 pm

B.O.P. War Hawk wrote:If I use the long cylinder, the cylinder head will be sticking back about %15 farther than normal, which will allow for use of a standard sized piston and sector.
I have already tested it with parts from another gun. It works.


*sigh* by all means then, forgo the compatible parts used in an CA25 shell and do your own thing. If you think you can reinvent the wheel why not just engineer your own damn AEG? I'm done. You're beyond help.
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Postby Switchback » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:58 pm

Minerva wrote:engineer your own damn AEG? I'm done. You're beyond help.


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Postby pulsipher » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:37 am

Minerva wrote:
pulsipher wrote:I have a SPR Upper for my G&P set, I consider it a DMR


Long barrel =/= DMR.

I can slap a 400mm barrel extension and barrel on my MP5k and call it a DMR by that standard ;)

Minerva I don't know you, and really you dont' know me. I think you should take this opportunity to step away from your keyboard and go kick rocks. Ive been playing airsoft for 7 years now. I know what the difference between a long barrel and a DMR is.
You should stop trying to tell folks what to do since you're kinda new here.

and for the record in airsoft long barrel =~= DMR since thats really what makes a large difference in accuracy between a mp5k shooting 400 and a m16 shooting 400. I guess its all semantics to you, such a wise and knowledgeable 18 year old.

I guess if we ever see each other out on the field i could demonstrate the principle to you

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Postby Minerva » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:53 am

Barrel length doesn't make much of a difference so much as barrel quality and hop.

You're following the same idea that the people did when smooth bore muskets were around, and people tried to put a HUGE barrel on them because to them "barrel length = accuracy". They realized that wasn't so much right. Rifling (hop comparatively) is MUCH more important

But hey what do I know right? I'm just some dumb 18 year old :lol:
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Postby pulsipher » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:44 am

Minerva wrote:Barrel length doesn't make much of a difference so much as barrel quality and hop.

But hey what do I know right? I'm just some dumb 18 year old


Barrel length makes tonnes of difference.

air volume makes tonnes of difference and a barrels quality? I'm gunna assume that you mean diameter there
you missed the point of the post sir.
I know what goes into a DMR platform. you need to step away and breathe
I was shooting DMRs in airsoft before you knew what airsoft was.
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Postby Minerva » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:41 pm

pulsipher wrote:
Minerva wrote:Barrel length doesn't make much of a difference so much as barrel quality and hop.

But hey what do I know right? I'm just some dumb 18 year old


Barrel length makes tonnes of difference.

air volume makes tonnes of difference and a barrels quality? I'm gunna assume that you mean diameter there
you missed the point of the post sir.
I know what goes into a DMR platform. you need to step away and breathe
I was shooting DMRs in airsoft before you knew what airsoft was.


It's like the difference between a 650 with a normal unshaven mound hop and a 363 with an R-hop. And no I meant quality, like someone putting in a generic 6.03 like the Matrix ones (whoever the OEM is I'm not sure..) and difference a Edgi or Prommy barrel would make. Putting in a longer barrel doesn't give you more volume of air to push out, the cylinder does though, so unless you have a split gearbox, all swapping uppers is doing is under-voluming your set up..

I never said you didn't know, I'm sure you know quite a bit more about the sport then I do in fact.
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Postby pulsipher » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:05 pm

To the OP: there are SR25s AR10s and XM110s for sale that you can build from. WHY from scratch? seems like your making something easy hard.

BTW if your going for semi only are you going to do it mosfet or physically disable?
whats the goal?
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Postby B.O.P. Hawk » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:55 pm

At this point, I plan to buy a JG SR25 and stick the upgraded parts that I have in it, then put about $150 more of top-notch upgrades in it. The original point was to make a top quality weapon that would last a very long time, but at this point, I'm liking the idea of saving $100 or more on this project, only upgrading what is necessary for a really nice gun.

I think I am going to cut the selector plate so that it is unable to push the full auto inhibitor thingy up...
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Postby league 4 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:04 pm

If you do that, have fun opening the gearbox every time it locks up. Just use a mosfet for that.
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Postby Falcon7 » Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:10 pm

league 4 wrote:If you do that, have fun opening the gearbox every time it locks up. Just use a mosfet for that.


What. It's actually completely safe...And free.
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