BSP: TACTICAL TRAINING CAMP Nov 10th 2007

[Tombstone]

ah, poor Duke, he should start charging rental
...and dont forget the lunch as well...

[Shepherd]

Also, who here is interested in a pistol course put on by more pros? I have seen the course outline and the depth of the event is EXCELLENT?

Who is down? I need to see who's gonna be there.

I am interested.

[Shepherd]

Where did BSP get the silhouette targets used on the target stands? I could cut something out of cardboard boxes or use standard paper silhouettes but the cardboard ones would hold up better.

[Shepherd]

Another question.

When you do a mag change you take a knee. When done you yell "UP" and get up when a team mate signals you. What do you yell when you realize you need the mag change? Certainly not "DOWN". Too simular to "MAN DOWN". That would be used if a team member got hurt. What would you yell?

[The Duke]

You would yell "COLD", if my memory serves me correctly.

[Attack37]

When you have a weapon down, or need a mag change, the standard is "Cold". However, you can use any word you want as long as your team knows what it is and means.

Afterall, if everyone uses "cold" then sooner or later the enemy will figure out what it means.

[Ryu Arcturian]

Where did BSP get the silhouette targets used on the target stands? I could cut something out of cardboard boxes or use standard paper silhouettes but the cardboard ones would hold up better.

I think they made them...

PVC pipe, cardboard (like you said from a box), masking tape, duck tape

or at least that's what they looked like

[Shepherd]

Where did BSP get the silhouette targets used on the target stands? I could cut something out of cardboard boxes or use standard paper silhouettes but the cardboard ones would hold up better.

I think they made them...

PVC pipe, cardboard (like you said from a box), masking tape, duck tape

or at least that's what they looked like

They made simple PVC frames. Less engineered then I would of designed but adequate for the task. Easy to recreate. Much simpler and cheaper then the 2" x 2" pine stand I use.

The silhouettes were too consistant and too many to be hand cut. They must of been die cut. That tells me they are commercially available. Well I'll hit the search engines next.

[KA-BAR]

the sillouettes were brought by troy morh i belive, who got them from jollyroger. jollyroger supplied troys SSO tournoument with real ipsc targets for us to use...... noone showed to the event.

we sure used them though.... i belive he has HUNDREDS more, and might sell you a few,hit up instructor morh, the artist formerly known as -=OOHYA=-

[omega1]

Another question.

When you do a mag change you take a knee. When done you yell "UP" and get up when a team mate signals you. What do you yell when you realize you need the mag change? Certainly not "DOWN". Too simular to "MAN DOWN". That would be used if a team member got hurt. What would you yell?

One that I heard in Close Combat: First to Fight, and really like, is "red" and "green". It is one word, which makes it simple to say in a tense situation, and it is easily understood. You yell red when you weapon goes down, whether from a jam, empty mag, or catastrophic failure of your weapon. This immediately lets your team know that your sector isn't being covered, that you have stopped covering your sector. Once you get squared away enough to cover your sector again (reload your mag, fix the jam, switch to a different weapon), you yell "green", letting your team know that you are good to go, ready to cover your sector again. At that point I think someone else from your team should either physically give you a hand up, or make sure you are clear to come up, and verbally say "up", allowing you to come up.