Knives on the field.

[LiberalPacifist]

I just sat down and read what I missed, and JESUS CHRIST! I never realized what a den of jackals AP is till now! I'm glad the whole Thor/knife thing is over because that was shameful of almost everyone who posted on it. If the thing with Thor was ignored, what would have happened? Probably nothing. But instead what I saw was about half a dozen members and even a moderator attack him for one post involving two goddamn knives. It reflects poorly on all of us who enjoy running around with realistic replicas of REAL WEAPONS and shooting at each other. The danger of getting shot holding a gun, real or replica, is much more than the danger of a knife. Shame. And Thor, we really don't need to know just how 'gangsta' you are, im sure you are quite badass.

[Nocte]

It was found that in new mexico a man killed a cougar by shoving his fist down its throat causing the cat to pass out.

Yes, but that would involve putting most of your arm in a cougar's mouth, which is precisely the last place I want my arm, other than perhaps a larger animal, or Andrew Child's rectum.

I just sat down and read what I missed, and JESUS CHRIST! I never realized what a den of jackals AP is till now!

You're new. We'll forgive you this once. Maybe.

I'm glad the whole Thor/knife thing is over because that was shameful of almost everyone who posted on it.

Yes. Thank you for bringing it up again.

If the thing with Thor was ignored, what would have happened? Probably nothing. But instead what I saw was about half a dozen members and even a moderator attack him for one post involving two goddamn knives.

The illegality of said knives were what was addressed in a negative fashion. Law enforcement frequents these boards on a daily basis (some are regular AP members, some may be keeping a close eye on us). The last thing we need is for them to see discussion about "some kid" with not one, but two illegal knives carried on his person in a manner that would legally require a CCW permit. Excuse the shazaam out of the staff if we're trying to keep our discussions outside the realm of legal ramifications that would reflect poorly of this website and its community.

It reflects poorly on all of us who enjoy running around with realistic replicas of REAL WEAPONS and shooting at each other.

See above.

The danger of getting shot holding a gun, real or replica, is much more than the danger of a knife. Shame.

There is no danger of getting shot with a replica, assuming all the safety equipment is being worn. That's why we enjoy the hobby - we expect to get shot by them. If you are brandishing a weapon, AEG or real-steel or knife or baseball bat or tactical rape brick or whatever - expect to get shot by something, be it a bean bag, a bullet, or a few thousand volts of electricity. This is getting off topic. Additionally, this was the dumbest comment you made in your post - thought you should know.

And Thor, we really don't need to know just how 'gangsta' you are, im sure you are quite badass.

Way to play the same cards we did, after it was dropped, and after you criticized everyone else for doing the same thing. Isn't hypocrisy fun? You should try Irony, that one's a trip with a shot of vodka.

Why don't you try backing down a little bit instead of getting your nuts in a pinch right out of the gate, eh cowboy? You might make a friend or two.

[Tombstone]

My take on it is this...and take note, i always expect the worst possible outcome, one of the things being a Murphy has taught me.

So David Bowie is runnin through the woods, doesnt notice his knife fly the coop. Knife lands in a position other then point down. Knife also happens to land in a high traffic area where alot of people are running. Abe Murphy comes screamin down the path running the Mad Dog play, Abe Murphy is one clumsy-ass mutha-fucka, and stumbles, lands on said knife that would not have been there if fixed blade knives were all kept in the car. Because even ol clumsy Abe Murphy isnt so clumsy that he's gonna fall into your glove compartment.

That being said, do what you want, shazaam em all.

[LiberalPacifist]

As far as law enforcement, I would be REALLY surprised if they cared about two illegal knives in the pocket of a blogger, I would be even more surprised and in a way disappointed if they did anything about it. One 18 y/o with not just one ,oh no, but (Omg!) two Illegal knives. NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT!

Can you appreciate how little this matters to police? And if a thread is created on carrying potentially deadly weapons (or deadly accidents) into a harmless game, shouldn't that be the focus of any lecture on legality?

[LiberalPacifist]

Actually Tombstone's right, folding knives are just as practical and tons safer than an 8 inch, fixed blade, razor sharp, killing machine.
Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.

[Nocte]

As far as law enforcement, I would be REALLY surprised if they cared about two illegal knives in the pocket of a blogger, I would be even more surprised and in a way disappointed if they did anything about it. One 18 y/o with not just one ,oh no, but (Omg!) two Illegal knives. NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT!

I appreciate the exaggeration, it shows that you know what you're talking about, and clearly want to demonstrate that knowledge by obscuring it with irrelevant bullshit.

Can you appreciate how little this matters to police?

I'll let those in the know field this one, but I want you to know I laughed at you for making this comment.

And if a thread is created on carrying potentially deadly weapons (or deadly accidents) into a harmless game, shouldn't that be the focus of any lecture on legality?

I'm pretty sure that's what the entire thread is about, champ. It might also have something to do with it being posted in the Safety/Legality forum. Maybe I'm the only one that caught that, I dunno.

[Tompkins]

As far as law enforcement, I would be REALLY surprised if they cared about two illegal knives in the pocket of a blogger, I would be even more surprised and in a way disappointed if they did anything about it. One 18 y/o with not just one ,oh no, but (Omg!) two Illegal knives. NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT!

Can you appreciate how little this matters to police? And if a thread is created on carrying potentially deadly weapons (or deadly accidents) into a harmless game, shouldn't that be the focus of any lecture on legality?

does Thompson have an opinion on this guys comments?

[Nocte]

He's probably asleep, which is what I should be doing.

[Tompkins]

He's probably asleep, which is what I should be doing.

seconded






peace out

[Sleepy]

Tactical Rape Brick? Seriously? Where can I get one of those? Do you need a permit?

As far as law enforcement, I would be REALLY surprised if they cared about two illegal knives in the pocket of a blogger, I would be even more surprised and in a way disappointed if they did anything about it. One 18 y/o with not just one ,oh no, but (Omg!) two Illegal knives. NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT!

You'd be disappointed when a police officer does his job? You get a gold star! The knives are illegal, end of story. Here's your citation, feel free to voice your opinion in court. Better to avoid risking jail time, and just carry a perfectly legal knife in a perfectly legal fashion like the rest of us.

(Also: Knife stuffed down a boot. Bad idea. By the time you've lifted your pant leg, grabbed the knife, pulled it, opened it, and brought it to bear, I've slammed you to the deck with my bare hands, and I'm gonna break your wrist if you don't relinquish the knife. Tactically worthless.)

Can you appreciate how little this matters to police? And if a thread is created on carrying potentially deadly weapons (or deadly accidents) into a harmless game, shouldn't that be the focus of any lecture on legality?

Are you a police officer? Are you any person who's qualified to judge how interested a police officer may or may not be in illegal activity, such as knowingly carrying two perfectly illegal knives in a concealed fashion?

Do us all a favor. All parties involved dropped the matter. Heck, I even let it go. Please, get your head and your a$$ wired together, and get back to the topic of carrying knives on the field.

[LiberalPacifist]

I guess I changed my mind about knives on the field; they don't belong there. Too much risk of an accident for what gain? You look cooler while playing. How would that knife look in your chest after you trip on it? how would that look in someone else's chest?

[Fridge]

If you have a folding knife, like me (Swiss Army) you wont be able to fall on it and have it stab you. Look, if you don't wanna bring a knife, then don't bring a knife, but if you are responsible enough and have a clue what your doing, then taking another tool on the field shouldn't be a problem.

I do however agree, that a kid with some illegal knives isn't the highest of Police threat, but I am sure that they would still at least confiscate them or something if they knew about em.

[Steve]

Can I fit a Tactical Rape Brick into a dual AK mag pouch?

If I cut a chunk of foam to size, can I use it as a Training Rape Brick?

Does hitting someone in the head with said Training Rape Brick count as a kill, or do they just have to lie facedown on the ground with their arse in the air for 3 minutes?

[BigmanZ]

Well legality of size doesn't matter. I've yet to see a State that doesn't have an actor clause for certain things, one of those being blades. When carried as part of a wardrobe or costume, it's no longer considered a weapon but instead a prop.

As far as having them on the field, I think that should be upto the person holding the event. If they are ok with it, the blade is being carried securely in a proper sheath, and the person is mature enough to be trusted with such...then why not?

[Ninja2dan]

As far as law enforcement, I would be REALLY surprised if they cared about two illegal knives in the pocket of a blogger, I would be even more surprised and in a way disappointed if they did anything about it. One 18 y/o with not just one ,oh no, but (Omg!) two Illegal knives. NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT!

Can you appreciate how little this matters to police? And if a thread is created on carrying potentially deadly weapons (or deadly accidents) into a harmless game, shouldn't that be the focus of any lecture on legality?

As a former Police Officer licensed by DPSST in the State of Oregon, I can tell you that any person violating ORS 166.240 (Carrying concealed weapon) that I see at an AP event will be leaving said event with metal bracelets. And even though I am no longer employed by the PD, ORS 133.225 (Arrest by private person) states I am able to throw cuffs on that person, using physical force if needed, and await pickup from the local law enforcement.

To see some kid carrying weapons obviously intended for causing trouble and not for "utility" use is a serious no-go. The fact that those weapons are illegal in most states even when not carried concealed, that is another no-go. The point that has been made by myself and most others posting here is that it doesn't matter who brought the weapons, how old they are, etc. What matters is that if it is illegal, it will not be ignored and not taken lightly. And yes, several law enforcement officials are members of the AP community and I assume other LE officers/agencies are keeping tabs on the forums for various reasons. Listen to Nocte, he's got his shit together.

If the event organizer(s) do not mind utility weapons to be carried on the field, ensuring those weapons are legal and the person carrying it is legally authorized, and that the weapon is within safety standards and properly secured, then it should not be a problem. I have carried a folder in one of my LBV grenade pouches since the first day I started airsoft for the same reason I carry one on my person everywhere I go, including where it is legal overseas. There are plenty of good reasons to do so as long as you are safe about it and act as an adult.