A brief restatement of policy

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A brief restatement of policy

Postby Eyes On » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:49 pm

I am not addressing anyone in particular, but after last nights events I believe it needs to be said. It is implied by posting your event on these forums that:

1. There will be NO consumption of alcohol by those under age 21.
2. There will be absolutely NO illegal drug use.

By posting your event on these forums, you are accepting this as a rule for your event. By attending any event posted on these forums, you are agreeing to comply with these rules.

If you can't wait a few hours to blaze up, then don't come to the overnight. I don't care if you spark at home, just don't do it at our events.

The matter is NOT open to discussion. This is also not a discussion about whether or not pot should be legal. It is a simple statement of a non-negotiable reality.

Thank you.
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Postby Tombstone » Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:11 pm

here here!
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Postby CommieHunter » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:10 pm

'Cause we'll citizens arrest you and send you home.



or something like that
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Postby Nec » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:13 pm

words in fine print ....
CommieHunter wrote: "or something like that"
There's a difference between a person who has a screwdriver and a person who knows what they are doing.
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Postby DMitri » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:48 am

As an avid smoker and occasional drinker, I approve of this message!
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Postby KA-BAR » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:11 am

had Jesse from APST been there camping that night, i feel that some poor newb would have went to the pokey in handcuffs, with no game refund.

DO NOT PLAY THE ASSHAT AND BLAZE UP AT ANY AIRSOFT EVENTS.
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Postby TOP » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:46 am

What if I payed my $150 and got a prescription for the pain in my trigger finger?

Seriously though, illegal is illegal.
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Postby Pulsipher » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:50 am

Is a mod gunna lock and sticky this or what?
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Postby Nocte » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:55 am

It's already stickied: http://www.airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=104

This post is Gunny restating those rules so folks see it again.
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Postby Knuckles » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:28 pm

Before any (more) rumors start, I wasn't even within 100 miles of the field.

It IS funny as hell though.

Also, for all of the heroes with the citizen's arrest and hooks comments:

ORS 475.864 Unlawful possession of marijuana of less than one ounce is a Class C Misdemeanor and as such is deemed by the State of Oregon as "not a crime".

Put your capes and bat-cuffs away and leave policing to the police.
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Postby CommieHunter » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:43 pm

I wrote:or something like that


Don't worry, I will make sure I don't do anything I'd regret.
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Postby Eyes On » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:21 pm

It has nothing to do with legality. I am subject to drug screening every 12 working days due to my clearance at work. I pop positive, I lose my job. I lose my job due to exposure, I'm going to re-enact the final scene in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" only with heshers instead of movie critics.
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Postby Ryu Arcturian » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:39 pm

Gunny wrote: ...I am subject to drug screening every 12 working days due to my clearance at work. I pop positive, I lose my job.

QFT, I work for an environmental firm on Gov't contracts, I'm on bases frequently and have a level of clearance and am regularly screened
Gunny wrote: I lose my job due to exposure, I'm going to re-enact the final scene in "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" only with heshers instead of movie critics.

:lol: I can totally see you doing that Gunny, and I'd be more than happy to help :ownage:
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Postby DMitri » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:06 pm

If you don't smoke and are in an environment around smoking for a short period of time it will not show up on a drug screening, your metabolism will reduce it in short order. Especially outside at a campsite where exposure will be limited. Even if you were in an environment for a single prolonged period it wouldn't show up in the quantities needed to result in a positive result.

For obvious reasons the level of THC needed to receive a 'positive' is beyond the level of deniablilty.
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Postby TOP » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:12 pm

All that is besides the point....

From AP Rules
AP Waiver:
Everyone who attends Airsoft Pacific hosted or sponsored games must provide a signed copy of this waiver. You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader, it's free to download and allows you to view and print PDF files. Those over 18 will be allowed to sign waivers directly at events, but minors will have to provide a waiver with a parental signature and contact information so that the signature can be verified. Parents can also sign in person at games or events.

Standard Field and Safety Rules:
The following rules are for the safety of the players. Those who are unable to follow these rules will be considered unsafe players and will not be welcome at future games and events.
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1. Always wear eye protection in the form of goggles, masks, or shooting glasses, or safety glasses. Never remove your eye protection while on the battlefield. Regular prescription glasses are NOT acceptable as safety eyeware. Must meet ANSI Z87.1 standards and wrap around the face.

2. Do not fire in the deadpool (or designated "safe-zones") or through it. If you must testfire your replica, take it into the hot-zone and fire it there.

3. All replicas in deadpool or safe-zones have magazine out, safety on, muzzle cap fixed. Sidearms should be holstered and on safe.

4. Do not point your replica at anyone unless you are involved in a game on the battlefield and intend to shoot them.

5. Do not fire at any person without proper eye protection.

6. Do not fire at non-participants, including animals.

7. No illegal drug use will be permitted. No alcohol use before or during a game.

8. Leave real steel firearms at home! Real steel and Airsoft DO NOT MIX.

9. Carry replicas in boxes, bags, or carrying cases while transporting gear on or off the field. Do not remove your replica from it's case near a public highway, instead carry your gear in it's case to the designated staging area for the game.

10. Remove all of your gear and trash from the field when you leave.


Standard FPS Limits:
Chronographs are often used before games to test all replicas present. Any replicas that test too high will not be allowed in play. No exceptions will be made, please research upgrades and how they effect your replica before purchasing or installing them. All of the follow velocity limits are with .2g BBs.
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Gas Pistols - Green Gas
Fully Automatics - 400 fps (1.5j)
Sniper Rifles (Bolt Action) - 550 FPS (2.8j)
CQB/Indoor - All under 300 fps (0.8j)
*Limits Measured with .20g B


Rules of Engagement:
As a new player you'll want to know how these simple game mechanics work so you'll understand what to do in skirmish for different situations.

HITS & OUTS
- Anyone hit by a BB is hit and out.
- If you are "hit" during a game, 1) immediately yell "HIT!" as loud as you can, 2) place an orange or bright red bandana over your head, 3) walk back to the designated deadpool with the bandana clearly visible at all times. (Any rag, bandana, shirt, or bright cloth of the correct color is acceptable). Hold your replica in a non-threatening manner, do not fire, and do not talk or interact with other players who are still active in the game.
- Ricochet BBs do not count as hits.
- Hits to your replica do not count as hits.
- When in doubt about a hit, call yourself out.

CQB/INDOOR PLAY
All players who participate in CQB should understand that they will be engaging targets anywhere from 25 feet to even 5 feet away and because of that they may take painful hits. We recommend full masks, long sleeves, long pants, gloves, and hats/helmets be worn for CQB to avoid welts or breaking the skin. "Safety Kill" rules are not used for CQB, however players may surrender if they wish at any time to the opposing force to leave gameplay without any harm.

SAFETY KILLS
When you are too close in range to be comfortable taking a shot, you can call out "SAFETY KILL" on the player in your sights. Any clean shots with no cover under 30 feet are good candidates for safety kills. Do not call it unless the kill is already a given. Always honor safety kills when they are called on you just like honoring a "HIT". Safety kills can only be called on one individual at a time, not on entire groups. "SAFETY KILL" must be said loudly, as to simulate actually firing. Silence can only be maintained if you can tag the other player out. You must be able to point your replica and call "SAFETY KILL" on every person if there is more than one.

SNIPER SAFETY
Anyone acting as a sniper with an upgraded bolt action rifle over 400 fps (1.5j) should carry a sidearm that can be used alternately when engaging targets closer than about 60 feet. If you have no sidearm and find yourself too close to the opposing force, you may either a) call a safety kill, b) wait until they move to a safe range or c) relocate to a safe range. Do not fire at targets closer than 60 feet.

BLIND MAN
This is called whenever a non-player enters the battlefield, or when a player enters the battlefield without eye protection. All players are expected to echo blind man so that everyone on the field hears it, and upon hearing it each player is expected to sit down and wait until "Game on" is called to continue the game. If necessary, game coordinators will explain the game to the non-participants.

IF LOCAL POLICE ENTER THE FIELD
This is a potentially dangerous situation, and is treated as if they don't know we are playing a game. All players are expected to walk to the deadpool in plain sight, either with their guns over their head or leaving their guns in the field. Upon reaching the deadpool each player is to place his replica with his gear and gather in a group at least 20 feet from the gear. This is to provide safety by comforting the officers by removing any equipment that appears threatening to them. Gameplay is not commenced until we explain the situation and are allowed to continue.
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