War on Terrorism

[Zahrdoz]

What of the European countries that are also socialist that have a stronger economy? There are four countries that have economic issue at the current time; Germany, France, Italy and Spain. Now, countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweeden, Austria, etc are also socialist countries but have strong economies. However, what is practiced in Eiurope is not a true socialism anyway but a form of social capitalism. The Soviet Union was not a true communisom and even Red China today is more of a Commu-Capitalist state.

Casca/Gunny is an econmist as well as having a job in the legal profession. I am an Anthropologist and I will take the socialist side in alot of arguments.

[Wood Duck]

You must also take into consideration venezuala. Venezuala is going socialist and doing major buissiness with cuba. since venezuala has a LARGE stockpile of oil, they will and have played a major role in world politics. latin american countries have started talkes to form a latin american OPEC style organization.

[CharlesAFerg]

latin american countries have started talkes to form a latin american OPEC style organization.

...I'm sure. Because they really have comparable resources to the Arab peninsula....

....

[CharlesAFerg]

What of the European countries that are also socialist that have a stronger economy? There are four countries that have economic issue at the current time; Germany, France, Italy and Spain. Now, countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweeden, Austria, etc are also socialist countries but have strong economies. However, what is practiced in Eiurope is not a true socialism anyway but a form of social capitalism. The Soviet Union was not a true communisom and even Red China today is more of a Commu-Capitalist state.

Casca/Gunny is an econmist as well as having a job in the legal profession. I am an Anthropologist and I will take the socialist side in alot of arguments.

YES! Exactly, true communism cannot possibly succeed with such a massve amount of beaurocracy, and the population at large ahs absolutely no motivation to continue to work hard, (except their death by a tyrant dictator) ...straight decline.

But, I was saying that the YOUNG SOCIALIST group he belongs to does not exactly preach the kind of system you are advertising as more successful.

God I can't wait until I am higher up in college anthropology!

[Zahrdoz]

Granted, the tennents of a socialistic state:

Socialism is an ideology with the core belief that a society should exist in which popular collectives control the means of power, and therefore the means of production. In application, however, the de facto meaning of socialism has changed with time. Although it is a politically loaded term, it remains strongly related to the establishment of an organized working class, created through either revolution or social evolution, with the purpose of building a classless society. It has also, increasingly, become concentrated on social reforms within modern democracies. This concept and the term Socialist also refer to a group of ideologies, an economic system, or a state that exists or has existed. (Wiki)

are not bad in theory, just impractical. Let us take the theory of Marxism; where the proltariat violently rises to throw down the bourgeoisie to establish a state controlled by the working class. This of course goes into the economics of sustance living of a worker and the pay rate of that worker. That is more Casca's area.

A very fascinating take on economics that was shown to me by Casca is Keynesian economics. Take a look at it. It actually makes sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesianism

However I will maintain that a governmental type is only as powerful as the people allow it to be. This of course should have factors of controll and cultural mores
attached to it, but the base is still the people. They are that which truely dictates the course of a nations politcal system.

[Wood Duck]

What of the European countries that are also socialist that have a stronger economy? There are four countries that have economic issue at the current time; Germany, France, Italy and Spain. Now, countries such as Denmark, Norway, Sweeden, Austria, etc are also socialist countries but have strong economies. However, what is practiced in Eiurope is not a true socialism anyway but a form of social capitalism. The Soviet Union was not a true communisom and even Red China today is more of a Commu-Capitalist state.

Casca/Gunny is an econmist as well as having a job in the legal profession. I am an Anthropologist and I will take the socialist side in alot of arguments.

YES! Exactly, true communism cannot possibly succeed with such a massve amount of beaurocracy, and the population at large ahs absolutely no motivation to continue to work hard, (except their death by a tyrant dictator) ...straight decline.

But, I was saying that the YOUNG SOCIALIST group he belongs to does not exactly preach the kind of system you are advertising as more successful.

God I can't wait until I am higher up in college anthropology!

I never said i was the kind of socialist you implyed. You assumed i was a "stallinist Lover"

[Wood Duck]

i'm sure that you can't have a good idea of YPSL from glancing at a web page

[Zahrdoz]

One, there was no implication to you being a stalinist.
Two, You have a right to believe as you will and others have a right to their opinion as well.

[Wood Duck]

very tru sry was responding to Charlesa ferg

[Zahrdoz]

"George Bush doesn't care about black people" Kayne West 2005

What do Kayne West and George Bush have in common? They both talk before thinking.
(However, Kayne West is by far the bigger idiot....)

[Skywalker]

Whatever.

[Seagreen]

Read the above Sky. Keep your smart a$$ comments to yourself.

[CharlesAFerg]

I never said i was the kind of socialist you implyed. You assumed i was a "stallinist Lover"

i'm sure that you can't have a good idea of YPSL from glancing at a web page

http://www.ypsl.org/cgi-bin/mods/showht ... principles

You belong to that organization and I did not "glance" I took a very good look at its members, and reaqd over all of its principles and its 'constitution'. Don't take me for a fool because it will come right back at you. Because you labelled yourself a young socialist, I know you go by those guidelines. If you don't please explain which ones and why. I want detailed responses, not petty retorts of a sour little boy.

Facts about the war would be nice, want to talk about the war in Iraq?

Also, I never implied you were a stalinish lover in that whole quote you posted.

You assume too much, you should read more carefully and stop trying to make these horrible generalizations about things. Isn't that against the young socialist doctrine? Why yes! It is!

Stereotypes are bad and higher education is a must! Do not generalize, its the easy way out!

My goodness, we have something in common!

[CharlesAFerg]

Read the above Sky. Keep your smart a$$ comments to yourself.

Thank you Bill.

[Wood Duck]

I never said i was the kind of socialist you implyed. You assumed i was a "stallinist Lover"

i'm sure that you can't have a good idea of YPSL from glancing at a web page

http://www.ypsl.org/cgi-bin/mods/showht ... principles

You belong to that organization and I did not "glance" I took a very good look at its members, and reaqd over all of its principles and its 'constitution'. Don't take me for a fool because it will come right back at you. Because you labelled yourself a young socialist, I know you go by those guidelines. If you don't please explain which ones and why. I want detailed responses, not petty retorts of a sour little boy.

Facts about the war would be nice, want to talk about the war in Iraq?

Also, I never implied you were a stalinish lover in that whole quote you posted.

You assume too much, you should read more carefully and stop trying to make these horrible generalizations about things. Isn't that against the young socialist doctrine? Why yes! It is!

Stereotypes are bad and higher education is a must! Do not generalize, its the easy way out!

My goodness, we have something in common!

i'm wondering if since i declaired myself a socialist that you have automatically chosen me as your enemy.

I do not want to be your enemy.

I would love to talk about iraq.

Where are the WMD's?
Where is the evedence of a connection between Iraq and 9/11?
Was it worth it to have thousands of soldiers and civilians die to make Iraq an example to the rest of the world?