6.01 vs. 6.03 Inner Barrel

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6.01 vs. 6.03 Inner Barrel

Postby Bic 101 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:26 am

I am looking to upgrade my stock KWA M4 inner barrel with a tight bore. I have a suppressor that is long enough to put in an M16 length barrel so I am going to do that. But my question is, is it worth the money for the 6.01?
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Postby RiotingCows » Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:31 am

What are you looking for in a barrel/gun?

I don't know much about quality but you can get some 6.01 TBB for less than 6.03s sometimes.
6.03 - http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=6530
6.01 - http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=6342

But then the expensive ones come in
6.01 - http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=5642
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Postby CalvinB » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:15 pm

Quality matters more than dimension. There are also many threads on this exact same topic.
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Postby Sahronax » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:52 pm

6.01 would mean you would be forced to clean it far more often... Not sure if this is an issue for you, it can be be for some people.
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Postby Blizzard » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:31 pm

A quality 6.03 will put out better results than a budget 6.01. They will last longer, shoot more consistently, and jam less.

But then a quality 6.01 beats all.
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Postby dom186 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:12 pm

Theoretically a 6.01 barrel will be better than a 6.03, but the dimension difference is so small it really doesn't make a difference. For real results, extend your barrel length a few inches and/or buy high quality bb's.
ASGI did a video comparing the difference between a 6.03 and 6.01, and the 6.01 actually preformed worse. Not saying that a 6.01s Are worse than 6.03s, but if 6.01s are better, they aren't better by much.
So like I said before, if you really want noticeable accuracy difference then buy heavier and more precise bb's and extend your barrel. But in reality, accuracy in airsoft doesn't matter as most people simply spray others on full auto.
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Postby Paladin101 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:19 pm

Um are you refering to this video?


Because maybe you need to watch it again. It shows infact the exact opposite of what you said.

A quality 6.01mm barrel can make a noticeable difference in performance vs a 6.03. Not to mention that your "spray and pray" comment may have to do with how you play, but I know lots of players that shoot in short controlled bursts or semi auto and have a lot higher skill than people who just spray and pray.
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Postby Blizzard » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:19 pm

Have you ever played something other than backyard wars?
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Postby Nec » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:27 pm

The difference between 6.03mm and 6.01mm inner diameters mean little if the inner diameter isn't constant throughout the entire barrel.

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http://www.6millimeter.info/joomla/inde ... &Itemid=42

You should pay more attention to the outer diameter of the barrel than the inner diameter as the hop up bucking creates a better seal with a tighter fitting barrel. Don’t get too wrapped up in barrel brands, some of the most expensive barrels aren’t all that great. According to the review above, the version 1 Madbulls were in fact 6.01mm not the advertised 6.03mm
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Postby Merchant » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:31 pm

This is a thread I started on arnies a while ago. My user name is Fred on that site.

Many of the bolt turners there that gave their opinion have a vast amount of experience and I would not take what they say lightly. Many techs are arguing that a good 6.05 will lend better accuracy than 6.01. Just some food for thought.

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?s=917efc563376816d67014294144e59ac&showtopic=189523
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Postby Jester316 » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:33 pm

Steel>Brass
6.01>6.03>6.08
510mm>363mm

Stay to the left of those measurements, and you will be happy with the results.
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Postby Riddick » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:23 pm

barrels are not everything. Quality and internals of a bb contribute to accuracy as well.

a good bucking helps as well.

Also the air seal tightness of you cylinder lends better results so there is less of a shot to shot variation of fps which will drop your accuracy

The barrel is #1, BB #2 and Bucking #3 as far as importance goes.

However I must say the new 6.01mm barrels I have been ordering as of late are pretty dam nice.
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Postby Dalb » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:29 pm

6.01 obviously will be tighter for the BB and requires higher maintenance but to be honest I have only dealt with 6.03 TBB before and those seem to do the job just fine for an M4.
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Postby Riddick » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:32 pm

I don't believe the hype that a 6.01mm versus a 6.03mm requires anymore maintenance than the other.

.02mm is really minute.

This is IMO
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Postby Mongrol » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:55 pm

Cant find it but i read a post from (jester i think) explaining why the 6.01 is better than the 6.03. He uses statistics and facts to prove why they are better. Again i couldnt find it and dont remember what the name of the thread was. I agree though it does depend on consistency throughout the barrel.
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