Hop-Up Bucking input

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Postby RedSpo0n » Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:20 pm

Greetings all!

I've been pressed for my christmas wishlist already this year, and as such, I'm aiming to throw the traditional upgrades on my M4.

Thus far, I've choosen myself a tightbore (AirsoftGI 6.01, 370mm), a niffty concave spacer (Polarstar varient), and the interesting and still cheap UTG MRE-Style RAS.

What I'm stuck on, probably foolishly, is the new bucking. Anyone have an opinion on what company/type/'hardness' I should run with? Seems like there are tons of options, with a myriad of prices, and it all means nothing to me. Out of all the components I've worked with, I've never replaced a bucking before. =p

So, insight in the world of Hop-up buckings would be much aprreciated - or any other input on my other choices would be welcome!

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Postby Lushes » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:00 pm

I have that same question.
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Postby CADPAT » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:01 pm

Lushes wrote:I have that same question.


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Postby Blizzard » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:15 pm

KWA 2GX bucking. 'Nuff said.
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Postby Lushes » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:29 pm

Thanks man! that helps alot!
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Postby Riddick » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:31 pm

probally something like a systema bucking because with the concave spacer when you add a bucking that has a inner nub or slits like the 2gx bucking or the mad bull buckings. you negate all the effects of the concave spacer. You want to use those buckings then just use the normal macaroni style spacer.

problem is most bucking nowdays have the inner nubs in them. systema is one of them I know that doesnt
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Postby Merchant » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:43 pm

Firefly people. Firefly. If you can find them in stock, they are the best. For 400fps+ you want the firefly hard, for less, the soft.

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http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Art-Upgrades-t137203.html
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Postby Riddick » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:49 pm

which essentially is the 2gx bucking

the firefly and 2gx share these same traits in the pic

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I'd rather rly on the spacer hard characteristics than thin rubber fingers.
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Postby Merchant » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:54 pm

Well firefly's are regarded as the best in the bolt world, and I love the one I put in my G-spec so, yep.
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Postby Riddick » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:57 pm

Merchant wrote:Well firefly's are regarded as the best in the bolt world, and I love the one I put in my G-spec so, yep.


trust me I know too much about firefly. Im not directing my post towards you.

yes in the bolt world the have basically been regarded as god of all hopup buckings.
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Postby Merchant » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:07 pm

Riddick wrote:
Merchant wrote:Well firefly's are regarded as the best in the bolt world, and I love the one I put in my G-spec so, yep.


trust me I know too much about firefly. Im not directing my post towards you.

yes in the bolt world the have basically been regarded as god of all hopup buckings.


No, I understand. I'm defiantly interested, especially seeing as I have never used an SCS nub.
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Postby RedSpo0n » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:51 pm

Riddick wrote:probally something like a systema bucking because with the concave spacer when you add a bucking that has a inner nub or slits like the 2gx bucking or the mad bull buckings.

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I'd rather rely on the spacer hard characteristics than thin rubber fingers.


The bucking 'feature' nub/fingers is new information to me - precisely the kind of thing I needed to know, thank you! All the buckings I've ever worked with were plain 'ol Marui ones. Simple tube.

I also prefer the Spacer creating the desired effect, rather than the bucking itself.

Systema is feature-free you say - okdokie. Good option to start with.
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Postby Jester316 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:54 pm

AEG and bolt hop ups (while functionality is the same) operate very differently. Bolt buckings rely on the nubs to have a long contact time to properly work. The longer they are in contact the more consistent they will be. AEG buckings are meant for very quick contact (fractions of a second sometimes). The fingers of a firefly bucking work great when there is a long period of contact (measured in full seconds). When you get into rapid fire with them, they tend to not seat properly, and cause minute variations shot to shot.

So, to sum up what I said: go with a Systema bucking and a concave nub for an AEG. Go with a firefly (or fingered type bucking) for DMR and bolt platforms (longer contact period type weapons).
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Postby Blizzard » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:26 pm

I had a 2GX in my G36 and now have it in an M4, and I never had a problem with it being inconsistent on auto. Granted, my G36 isn't shooting insanely fast (17 RPS), but it is putting out about average ROF.

I've just had better results with the Firefly design compared to a normal bucking with H/SCS nubs.

You're argument does sound reasonable though, but you need some proof, not just an opinion.
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Postby Jester316 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:51 pm

Blizzard wrote:I had a 2GX in my G36 and now have it in an M4, and I never had a problem with it being inconsistent on auto. Granted, my G36 isn't shooting insanely fast (17 RPS), but it is putting out about average ROF.

I've just had better results with the Firefly design compared to a normal bucking with H/SCS nubs.

You're argument does sound reasonable though, but you need some proof, not just an opinion.


My proof is in my thousands of rounds put through my bolt action and first hand experience between time contacting the bucking...
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