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Postby netruamas » Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:04 am

an addition limpy needs to shut the hell up and help the guy out he just wants some advice not a bleeding parent secondly strykerz needs to not over react youll get an asshole posting on your thread but just ignore it.
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Postby Jewish Ninja » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:13 pm

Commas and capitalization. Use them!

Is it really worth it to buy a Dboys or other cheaper M4 and then stick a $175 stock on it? Its gonna do nothing for function, and that money could be spent on an internal overhaul.
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Postby chucklls » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:43 pm

Jewish Ninja wrote:Commas and capitalization. Use them!

Is it really worth it to buy a Dboys or other cheaper M4 and then stick a $175 stock on it? Its gonna do nothing for function, and that money could be spent on an internal overhaul.


agreed....

your spending pointless time and money what your aiming for. just get a higher end AEG and save money to put in that.
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Postby G36 FTW » Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:58 pm

I would browse for a Chinese clone UBR stock, my friend has one and it is pretty nice- albeit it doesn't say Magpul anywhere...

Also, the G&G (combat machine, whatever) plastic M4s are pretty nice. All you would have to do is trim the spring, remove the outer barrel extension and drop in a shorter barrel and you would be set.

netruamas wrote:an addition limpy needs to shut the hell up and help the guy out he just wants some advice not a f***ing parent secondly strykerz needs to not over react youll get an asshole posting on your thread but just ignore it.


So he should ignore you?
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Postby Strikerz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:35 pm

Well my budget hopefully is around $500. So i was just planning on getting a nice cheaper gun with the battery in the handguard so i could get a PEQ box, with a working vertical grip and the UBR, any other money left over will be spent on the internals of the gun
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Postby Prophet » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:41 pm

Strikerz wrote:Well my budget hopefully is around $500. So i was just planning on getting a nice cheaper gun with the battery in the handguard so i could get a PEQ box, with a working vertical grip and the UBR, any other money left over will be spent on the internals of the gun

Just wondering, why do you need the UBR stock?? It's more or less for longer ranges and is supposed to act as a fixed stock that is adjustable. Anyways, if you really want to go down that path, here;
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/ea-x-magpul- ... black.html
Everything you need, and it is wired to the back, and they also sell lipos for that stock for $18 (good idea to go lipo, but only 7.4 so your gun survives longer).
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Postby Strikerz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:47 pm

I personally like the look of the UBR stock on an M4, and thanks for the link ill look into that
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Postby Strikerz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:28 pm

Alright so i did some looking around and here is the list i have acquired. Please not that i do not intend to buy all of this at once.

Base Gun - Echo 1 STAG-15 RIS

External
- STAG 15 metal lower and upper receiver
- MAGPUL UBR PTS stock
- King Arms PEQ-15
- MAGPUL MBUS back up sight
- Bravo Holosight

Internal
- Masamune 6.01, 370mm precision barrel
- Systema Energy motor, Long

Id like feedback, and suggestions please
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Postby quigly » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:43 pm

Not flaming you or anything, but do you know what MBUS stands for? Magpul Back Up Sight. So saying, "MAGPUL MBUS back up sight" is kinda useless. Just sayin.
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Postby Falcon7 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:44 pm

6.01 tightbores aren't the best for AEGs. You don't really need anything beyond 6.03.
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Postby Strikerz » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:50 pm

quigly wrote:Not flaming you or anything, but do you know what MBUS stands for? Magpul Back Up Sight. So saying, "MAGPUL MBUS back up sight" is kinda useless. Just sayin.


Sorry didnt think about what MBUS meant, was focused on other things.
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Postby Jester316 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:20 pm

Falcon7 wrote:6.01 tightbores aren't the best for AEGs. You don't really need anything beyond 6.03.


Please support your answer, as there are many a person on here who use a 6.01 barrel in their AEG's with fantastic results.

I will use science to show that a 6.01 barrel is better than a 6.03 barrel:

-Airsoft bb's are 5.95mm across, with some going to 5.97 (airsplat bb's are the only ones I can recall, but I'm sure there are more).

-The average stock barrel of an AEG is 6.08mm

-The space between barrel and bb (if the bb were perfectly centered in the barrel) is .13mm. This is the amount of space air has to escape around the bb and not be beneficial to the flight path.

-A 6.03mm tight bore will drop the excess area down to .08mm. That's almost half of the original free space.

-A 6.01mm tight bore will drop the excess area down to .06mm. That's MORE than half of the original free space.

-When determining the ballistics of a round object, the amount of air pushing the object down a tube directly correlates to the speed and stability of said object. Large amounts of air escaping around the object will slow it down, and create mass turbulence inside the barrel. Cutting down the space that allows turbulence between the object and the barrel will increase speed and accuracy.

-A tight bore helps with accuracy in that it prevents the bb from bouncing back and forth around the barrel. With .13mm of space, the bb can bounce back and forth from one edge of the barrel to the other .065mm. With a tighter tolerance of .06mm the bb only has .03mm on any side to move. Again, that's less area for the bb to bounce around and disrupt the flight path.

So, when choosing the best inner barrel, you need to ask yourself: Do you want the least amount of space for a bb to bounce around in? Or are you ok with more room to affect the speed and accuracy of the projectile?
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Postby Falcon7 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:35 pm

I had a 6.01 in my AEG, it didn't work well at all. Also, Derrik, who owns Rouge Military and is a fantastic tech, shares the same opinion. Honestly, .02mm probably isn't going to do much for your accuracy. You sound like my history teacher. *shivers*
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Postby Jester316 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:50 pm

Addendum to my above post:

A 6.03mm barrel will wield 38% more compression over a 6.08mm barrel of the same length when using 5.95mm bb's.
A 6.01mm barrel will wield 46% more compression over a 6.08mm barrel of the same length when using 5.95mm bb's.

Your claim that a 6.01mm was not needed was subjective based on your own feelings. I have shown that based on the numbers, a 6.01mm is better.

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Postby Lushes » Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:51 pm

Jester, that was very well done! I am convinced! I will be buying a 6.01 tight bore barrel.
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