6.01 vs. 6.03 Inner Barrel

[Sahronax]

My comment on cleaning was based on personal experience, so your mileage may vary. Another note from just my experience: my gun with a JBU 6.03 407mm (aluminum) barrel has better range and FPS than my dad's with a Prometheus 6.01 534 mm (brass) barrel. I have no idea why that may be, and I doubt it's anything more than a random fluke, but if not than it may make a difference.

[dom186]

Um are you refering to this video?

Because maybe you need to watch it again. It shows infact the exact opposite of what you said.

A quality 6.01mm barrel can make a noticeable difference in performance vs a 6.03. Not to mention that your "spray and pray" comment may have to do with how you play, but I know lots of players that shoot in short controlled bursts or semi auto and have a lot higher skill than people who just spray and pray.

You are absolutely correct. My bad.

[Riddick]

My comment on cleaning was based on personal experience, so your mileage may vary. Another note from just my experience: my gun with a JBU 6.03 407mm (steel) barrel has better range and FPS than my dad's with a Prometheus 6.01 534 mm (brass) barrel. I have no idea why that may be, and I doubt it's anything more than a random fluke, but if not than it may make a difference.

thats because prometheus does not make brass barrels or 6.01mm ones.

smallest diameter I have seen is 6.03mm

[Sahronax]

My comment on cleaning was based on personal experience, so your mileage may vary. Another note from just my experience: my gun with a JBU 6.03 407mm (steel) barrel has better range and FPS than my dad's with a Prometheus 6.01 534 mm (brass) barrel. I have no idea why that may be, and I doubt it's anything more than a random fluke, but if not than it may make a difference.

thats because prometheus does not make brass barrels or 6.01mm ones.

smallest diameter I have seen is 6.03mm

Haha, that might explain something... A look at the package shows that it is in fact a 6.03. My bad

[league 4]

My comment on cleaning was based on personal experience, so your mileage may vary. Another note from just my experience: my gun with a JBU 6.03 407mm (steel) barrel has better range and FPS than my dad's with a Prometheus 6.01 534 mm (brass) barrel. I have no idea why that may be, and I doubt it's anything more than a random fluke, but if not than it may make a difference.

thats because prometheus does not make brass barrels or 6.01mm ones.

smallest diameter I have seen is 6.03mm

Haha, that might explain something... A look at the package shows that it is in fact a 6.03. My bad

They still don't make brass barrels.

[Sahronax]

Apparently this was entirely the result of misinformation and guesswork on my part, I now attempt to remove the foot far enough out of my mouth to ask, out of curiosity, what then do they make their barrels out of?

[league 4]

Stainless steel. They recently came out with a 6.05mm aluminum ASH barrel line though.

[Jewish Ninja]

I've had better results with my 300mm Dees (6.01) than my Madbull 509mm (6.03) barrel. Both have the same hopup chamber,bucking and nub.

As for barrel maintenance, it should be performed regularly no matter what the barrel dimensions are. Just because its a stock barrel (6.08~) doesn't mean it needs any less maintenance than a TBB(6.04 or less). Barrels should be cleaned more often during the summer if you play in areas with lots of dust/pollen/ferns. All of these can gunk up your gun to no end.

[Jester316]

Cant find it but i read a post from (jester i think) explaining why the 6.01 is better than the 6.03. He uses statistics and facts to prove why they are better. Again i couldnt find it and dont remember what the name of the thread was. I agree though it does depend on consistency throughout the barrel.

4th post from the bottom on the 2nd page of this thread.

[Paladin101]

Nocte, Madbull uses a Carbon Oxide coating.

Aluminum barrels even with the coating will warp with a BB jam. Also the coating does eventually flake off, granted this is a couple years, but it does.

Stainless barrels are nice, but there is no way to change them. If they get bent, or jammed, or they have an imperfection you honestly can't do much about it without some serious effort.

The nice thing about Brass barrels is that you can straighten them anytime you want. The inner walls will actually polish the more rounds your fire through it. Because brass is so soft you can modify the barrel with ease, IE change hop up cut, shorten length. And you can clean the inside with a bore brush if you absolutely need to.

The whole 6.05 argument on Arnie's I have read and still chalk up to airsoft being slow to evolve and the old mindset of 6.01s are just too tight for efficient use. I have learned a great deal from Dwayne Dees about tightbores and we still have people to this day who try to tell us that you can't use a 6.01mm barrel in a gun because the BB will get stuck.

As far as getting the best performance out of your barrel. If you have looked at the stock barrel/hop-up unit from a Chinese gun lately you will notice they are gluing the entire assembly. This is so the glue seals the chamber and provides a good air seal. This exact same thing can be done with air seal grease and Teflon tape. A tightbore barrel is not an upgrade if you don't know how to correctly install it.

[Mongrol]

Cant find it but i read a post from (jester i think) explaining why the 6.01 is better than the 6.03. He uses statistics and facts to prove why they are better. Again i couldnt find it and dont remember what the name of the thread was. I agree though it does depend on consistency throughout the barrel.

4th post from the bottom on the 2nd page of this thread.

o ya i remember that thread

[~HYBRID~]

I have ran numerous Dee's 6.01 barrels and with thousands of rounds, my buddy Monkman who used same barrels, can say that with the 6.01 you don't need to clean very often if at all.

However if you smash your front end into mud and plug your barrel don't be stupid and fire.

With just BB's and use the barrels actually polish themselves out and "Self-clean" the bore is small enough that whatever dirt could be in there actually helps polish it and provides a more effective accurate barrel. The break-in period for most Dee's barrels were up in the thousands.

As the video Paladin101 posted there is an extreme result difference as well as FPS increase with TBB

My .02

[Mtgriz]

All but two of my 8 rifles have a Dees' 6.01. I've fired hundreds of thousands of rounds through my rifles and never had so much as a jam.

All of the theoretical "science" on Arnie's is just that. Theory. Half the "experts" on there couldn't show you how to measure the inside of a tightbore, let alone tell you how to use it or if it works.

I only use Excell .25s in my assault rifles and LMGs, and Excell .30s in my SR25. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of problems that people have with 6.01 barrels is from crap BBs. If my 25 RPS SAW can go through 400k+ rounds and not ever jam once, it says a lot about people jamming mag after mag.

Just like any other product, most failures are user generated.

[Bic 101]

So, what is a good quality brand?

I see Jester said steel is better than just about anything. Any good brands that is for a good price?

Thanks for all the comments.

[Jester316]

If it really is from Prometheus, than this should be a pretty decent barrel.