What components of an AEG affect range the most?

[G36 FTW]

So-so, the heavier the bb the faster it falls, but the more stable it is in air.

Where did you take physics? No matter the BB weight, it will fall the same amount as a heavier BB, but will be affected less by air resistance, so it will travel farther.

Which is exactly what I said, I just stated it differently.

My bad bro, I interpreted it differently

Haha, nice ninja edit.

Yeah, my pseudo-DMR kit is pretty sick. I would recommend it to anyone.

And my bad I meant matt not pseudo.

[Blizzard]

Maybe, but if you have two guns with the same hopup/barrel components shooting the same weight bbs, the one with higher FPS will shoot farther.

It might increase it by like 10-15 feet, but it's pretty much negligible. A heavier round with lower velocity on the other hand will travel much farther due to more momentum (as G36 FTW alluded to).

In my 400 FPS setup, if I put .2's in it, I get about 150 feet or range, but when running .28's, that goes up to about 210 feet. It only has a muzzle velocity of 330 or so with the .28's, but the momentum carries the BB farther.

Assuming near-perfect compression and clean barrel:

TOTAL RANGE is affected by BB weight, and velocity.

EFFECTIVE RANGE is affected by barrel quality, barrel length, bucking/hopup, BB quality, weather.

[Nec]

1. To a certain extent. You don't want your barrel to be too long or too short.
2. Yes.
3. Maybe, but will probably effect accuracy the most. Best diameter for your gun depends on a couple things, and I've seen some arguments that a wider diameter can even be better.
4. Yes, but a good bucking and nub also helps dramatically.
5. Yes, once again you want balance. Not to heavy or light.
6. Yes.

Unless you show me facts, I say Hearsay!


FPS and weight of BBs have the biggest effect on range, also the angle of engament of the Hop-up bucking to bbs.
Source:http://mackila.com/airsoft/ATP/index.htm more specifically this page.
Source: http://www.tacomaairsoft.com/forum/inde ... pic=3405.0

[matteumayo]

1. To a certain extent. You don't want your barrel to be too long or too short.
2. Yes.
3. Maybe, but will probably effect accuracy the most. Best diameter for your gun depends on a couple things, and I've seen some arguments that a wider diameter can even be better.
4. Yes, but a good bucking and nub also helps dramatically.
5. Yes, once again you want balance. Not to heavy or light.
6. Yes.

Unless you show me facts, I say Hearsay!


FPS and weight of BBs have the biggest effect on range, also the angle of engament of the Hop-up bucking to bbs.
Source:http://mackila.com/airsoft/ATP/index.htm more specifically this page.
Source: http://www.tacomaairsoft.com/forum/inde ... pic=3405.0

Hmm so maybe I'll skip the kit for now...

Having never taken apart or altered an airsoft gun in my life, how easy would you say (or dangerous) it would be for me to try and swap spring on my own?

I don't really feel like paying someone else to if it's easy enough...

[Falcon7]

1. To a certain extent. You don't want your barrel to be too long or too short.
2. Yes.
3. Maybe, but will probably effect accuracy the most. Best diameter for your gun depends on a couple things, and I've seen some arguments that a wider diameter can even be better.
4. Yes, but a good bucking and nub also helps dramatically.
5. Yes, once again you want balance. Not to heavy or light.
6. Yes.

Unless you show me facts, I say Hearsay!


FPS and weight of BBs have the biggest effect on range, also the angle of engament of the Hop-up bucking to bbs.
Source:http://mackila.com/airsoft/ATP/index.htm more specifically this page.
Source: http://www.tacomaairsoft.com/forum/inde ... pic=3405.0

Experience and research. The only thing I'm not sure about is barrel diameter, only tried a 6.04 and a 6.03.

[Blizzard]

As easy as this.

V3: http://www.mechbox.com/mechbox/v3-mechb ... grade.html
V2: http://www.mechbox.com/mechbox/v2-mechb ... grade.html

[matteumayo]

As easy as this.

V3: http://www.mechbox.com/mechbox/v3-mechb ... grade.html
V2: http://www.mechbox.com/mechbox/v2-mechb ... grade.html

Thanks!

[Blizzard]

Experience and research. The only thing I'm not sure about is barrel diameter, only tried a 6.04 and a 6.03.

He asked for facts, because if you really ran some tests on your theories, you might not like the results.

@Matteumayo: No problem, glad to help.

[Falcon7]

Experience and research. The only thing I'm not sure about is barrel diameter, only tried a 6.04 and a 6.03.

He asked for facts, because if you really ran some tests on your theories, you might not like the results.

@Matteumayo: No problem, glad to help.

If you'd like to point out some specific problems with anything I said, that would be great.

[ogrejager]

If you'd like to point out some specific problems with anything I said, that would be great.

Oh, let me field this one. I'll be brief as I have to get up at 0245 to kill some ducks, but I'd put it this way:

He said, "Unless you show me facts, I say Hearsay!"

You said, "Experience and research."

It finally ended with, "If you'd like to point out some specific problems with anything I said, that would be great."

The problem is you were asked for facts and replied with "experience and research." Those are not facts. Facts would be if, for example, you showed targets at different ranges or BBs tracked through their flights or some other good data. As I tell my students, "your personal experience is anecdotal." If you don't know what "anecdotal" means, look it up.

[Falcon7]

I don't think anyone has posted experiments they have done here as of yet. If somebody is going to post what they have found to be true and criticize me for doing the same, well... You are all of course welcome to post evidence that proves me wrong if you disagree with something I have said. I may just do some tests with different bb weights and barrels when I have time. Don't have any extra buckings or springs laying around tho.

Furthermore I agree completely with these statements:

TOTAL RANGE is affected by BB weight, and velocity.

EFFECTIVE RANGE is affected by barrel quality, barrel length, bucking/hopup, BB quality, weather.

So I'm not sure where we are disagreeing here. End rant.

[MikeRarrmeh [64oz]]

Something that affects range alot that I have yet to see mentioned (maybe I didn't read enough) is the matching of barrel length to cylinder port, that helps ALOT

source: experience with a non ported, 4/5, and 3/4 on a 363 barrel (3/4 worked the best)

and as a bonus, if you go down in port size due to your barrel length, you get a smidgen of RoF increase!

[matteumayo]

Hmmm...

I seem to have run into some trouble here with the spring upgrade...

It seems to be just a few parts/springs that weren't in that video fell out... specifically this one really small spring, and the trigger is tough to put back together. I'll upload pics tmrw.

more on it tomorrow though, because it's getting pretty late.

-matt