Ca SA58

[Mongrol]

Anybody know of another company that makes this style gun? I don't really care what brand since il upgrade it. Jut looking for something a little cheaper than $400

here's the link: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=3795

I'm looking for that or he full stock one. Doesn't make much difference

thanks

[Ninja2dan]

I saw that several companies do sell the King Arms carbine-length with folding stock, such as the one below at Redwolf for just under $250.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/AEG_AEP_King_Arms_King_Arms_FAL_Carbine_Folding_Stock_Mid_Length_FAL.htm

The SA58 series of firearms are generally made by DSA now, who also makes their own airsoft replica. But the price is also just under the $400 mark, and doesn't include the folding stock that CA is offering.

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http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-OSW-Battery- ... o/SA58AIR/[/url]

Below is a link to the actual SA58 OSW firearm for comparison.

http://www.dsarms.com/Mini-SA58-FAL-OSW-Rifle-Semi-Auto-308-Cal----SA58OSW/productinfo/SA58OSW/


I don't have any personal experience with King Arms replicas, but I have known CA to be my personal choice for replicas (outside of Systema). There is a pretty drastic price difference between the CA SA58 OSW and the KA FAL Carbine. The only major difference between the two cosmetically is that the KA model has a slightly longer barrel assembly. There are of course other minor differences, but nothing too serious. For the price, the KA model might be worth a shot if you're really interested in the FAL-style weapon.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

I'd recommend staying away from the King Arms FAL.
Around Fragistan they have earned the name FAiL.

[Beran]

the KA FALs are cheap for a reason.

that reason is that they suck.

the CA SA58s on the other hand are outstanding. the ARES L1A1s are also nice guns, but are a bit long and not that cheap. they also come as semiauto only, but are easily converted to full.

[Ninja2dan]

From what I understand (with my limited experience in airsoft so far) is that CA is one of the best companies around, in regards to durability, reliability, upgradability, and overall performance.

Sure, most CA rifles/carbines seem to run around $400 for the stock models, but how often will you need to repair/replace parts over the next few years? Not to mention you are getting something made with a large quantity of real metal instead of cheap plastic, meaning the replica can withstand "advanced" use in the field where other brands would break or wear out.

If the SA58 is a specific style of replica that you have your mind set on, I think the CA model is a good choice. The initial investment might be more, but in the end you'll save money due to reduced maintenance costs. I'm sure others can provide better feedback on that, but it would be my guess.

[Mongrol]

Alright thanks, il end up with the CA most likely then. Wasn't sure as I would have thrown CA parts into the king arms one anyways.

[Beran]

the internals aren't the crappy part on the KA, its the externals. the plastic in the front end is so thin you can squeeze it and it will flex a quarter of an inch or more.

ive owned every FAL replica out there, and the CA is by FAR the best. like i said, the ARES/STAR isn't awful, but its not comparable to the CA. i still have my STAR and my CA, but i got rid of the KA within a month of getting it. the guy that has it now has it working pretty damn well, but i know he did a ton of tinkering with it, and some pretty extensive custom work fitting a couple of real steel parts onto it.

[snowboarder249]

I have the short barreled SA58, and love it. The build quality is excellent, and the only part that really needed replacing was the piston head. As for the price, mine was the last one AONW had, and they wanted it gone, so I got it for $320 with a free battery and bag of bbs. Watch out for the charging handle, as it's the one weak point on the gun. The piece that connects the handle to the dust cover is weak, mine came broken. the easiest thing to do is to drill through and put a stronger bolt in. The only other problem is the lack of Midcaps. I've kinda solved this by converting mine to feed from Ak magazines. The stock is not as big inside as you'd think, crane stock batteries seem to fit the best. AONW originally gave me a giant 8.4v, but it wouldn't fit.

All in all, it's a great gun, and from what i've heard the only way the KA fals are better is the availability of midcaps and the number of different variants. It's also solid as a rock, inside and out.

[Beran]

i usually use a large 3500mah 8.4v in my SA58, and (provided its not already broken) you can keep the bolt/charging handle from breaking by moving the charging handle back forwards before you release the bolt when you lock it back. that way you don't have it slamming forward into the housing, just the lighter weight bolt.

i also wish there midcaps for the SA58s. all they have that ive seen are the 500rd hicaps and the 1000rd enormouscaps.

[VogonFord]

Do you know if it's possible to mount a KA front to a CA receiver? I already have a KA FAiL. I have thought multiple times of buying the CA, but the thing is I want a full length FAL, not a carbine.

[Ninja2dan]

Do you know if it's possible to mount a KA front to a CA receiver? I already have a KA FAiL. I have thought multiple times of buying the CA, but the thing is I want a full length FAL, not a carbine.

Classic Army is the authorized dealer for the SA58 series, licensed from DSA (who makes the SA58). They have a good selection, including the longer SA58 Carbine (CA has it listed as "rifle" though) which is longer than the OSW.

http://www.classicarmy.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_31&products_id=186

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_91&products_id=3435

So you do want a full-length 20"+ barrel, fixed stock, etc? In that case, you'll need to find a regular FAL for airsoft because the DSA-licensed models are not available in the full length configuration. And when I do a search online, 90% of the results for a full-length FAL keep coming back with King Arms, already suggested as a "hell no" option.

[Beran]

if you want the full length, the ARES L1A1 is the way to go. the external build is very nice, and it has a normal gearbox with a quick change spring. comes only in semiauto but you can either buy a full auto selector, or just grind down the stock one.

i doubt very much if mounting the KA front end on a CA would be done easily.