Vehicles on the field

[B.O.P. Hawk]

So, i did some questioning about miniguns and came to the conclusion that one would be more effective mounted on a vehicle.

Say i were to build a 2-man go-cart type ATV that could be used on rough terrain, then i were to attach a minigun to the back...
the Cart would have a wide wheel base, as to avoid tipping over, and the motor would be underneath a person-sized compartment for the gunner. the driver would sit up in the front with the steering column in between the pedals. Each wheel would have independent non-hydraulic suspension to keep it completely safe for both driver and gunner...

would this type of thing be effective? Would people let it on the field? Would it be worth it?
...just some food for thought...

[B.O.P. Hawk]

Is it a good idea?

Say I were to attach a SAW to it...

[Catch22]

I believe at certain games you'd be allowed to use it. It would depend on the event host and the field terrain. You could also expect very strict rules for the use of a vehicle. It's a cool idea. Go ahead and build it.

[Beran]

honestly, i hate the little recreational ATVs turned airsoft tanks. they never look good, and they kill the vibe by not looking right. the only time i like vehicles on the field outside of an admin vehicle is when its a full size vehicle, either an actual military style vehicle or a proper looking ad-hoc technical truck of some sort.

[The Murse]

You are going to be such a huge target its not even worth it.

Its going to be jsut like the mini gun problem: You stand out as so much of a potential threat taht you instatnly become the priorety 1 target across the entier filed. 5 people with fully auto guns just have to aim in the general direction and you'll be saying hit faster than your saw/mini gunner can find targets.

Plus are you even actually considering building this stuff or jsut comign up with ideas that "might be sorta awesome and i hope someone else will read this thread and build it"

If you are tahts awesome, but part of me is skeptocal. After all, this is the internet. Everybody is everbody

[Juicemachine]

You are going to be such a huge target its not even worth it.

Its going to be jsut like the mini gun problem: You stand out as so much of a potential threat taht you instatnly become the priorety 1 target across the entier filed. 5 people with fully auto guns just have to aim in the general direction and you'll be saying hit faster than your saw/mini gunner can find targets.

Plus are you even actually considering building this stuff or jsut comign up with ideas that "might be sorta awesome and i hope someone else will read this thread and build it"

If you are tahts awesome, but part of me is skeptocal. After all, this is the internet. Everybody is everbody

shazaam, I hope you're a troll.


If you make it look good, I could see it working well. A minigun would be excessive on it, though, I'd put a SAW or an AR on it.

[B.O.P. Hawk]

i would make it armored with mesh, so the only thing that could be a hit would be the gunner's top half.

I would not modify an ATV... I would build it from the ground up...

The reason I bring this up is because I started this project about a year back, then got sidetracked with other things... and now I have time to finish it, if I so wanted to...

[Beran]

A go-kart or ATV mocked up to look like a tactical vehicle or tank always looks just plain retarded, and ruins the atmosphere of the event. I'd rather see Tacoma with a 249 in the back than a plywood armored ATV.

im glad im not the only one that actually considers not going to a game where something like this is rolling around because it just reminds me of paintball.

http://media.airsoftpacific.com/main.ph ... 1.jpg.html

[Darius137]

I like what simulates what is real. I think an ATV can be done right and have the same effect as a real one as far as game mechanics.

If you get a little go kart thing, make it have a good cage on it, make it worn looking, and make it replicate a real vehicle. Rangers and SAS use a lot of go kart looking doo hickeys. SF use a lot of 4-wheelers.

As far as weapon systems, it's not a tank, so it's not for direct action. The vehicle mounted weapons are meant to protect it as it runs away. Its main purpose is to move faster than people to recon areas, or possibly even transport people.

If you're building this thing, do it right. You can build an arm that holds a 240 on the gunner's side, or an M60 up top facing forward, with another arm in the back to hold a 240 or 60.

M249's are not a serious weapon. They are a squad rifle. M60's or M240's are the smallest I'd go. The minigun is also a great option, but I think this project is already unfeasible due to cost, so we'll stick with an M60.

[DJ]

We have a vehicle similar to what you are wanting to make. They are a load of fun, but within limitations. The people above have stated many of the limitations of said vehicles. Aesthetically speaking, they are somewhat lacking. That said let me add my 2 cents. Most of the fields are pretty limited in where vehicles can go. Ours is a shell that sets on a Honda Foreman. A full size vehicle is even more limited. Scapoose is private Timber land and they allow 0 vehicles. You do become a serious target for anyone with with a nerf launcher. All hands will be shooting at you , which sounds like rain on a metal roof inside. In the summer its hot as hell inside. Ours is an attempt to mimic an SSUV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqzXueZS9NI We use it at some games and it can pretty much dominate the area if used correctly. Frankly its works best as rolling cover for an assault team. Due to size limitations, we found that a SAW or bigger weapon is just not too effective. An M-4 works just as well. A full size vehicle like an M 113 would be another story, but $$$$$. I would love to be able to field a real m 113 or an SSUV like the one pictured. The real SSUV's ( used) start at about 30K $
heres a photo of our SSUV at Holy wars

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak- ... 5503_n.jpg

The SSUV was initially made with scrap materials to keep the cost low. It was built for use on our farm, it sort of caught on and has been used at several events. Get information from many sources before you commit to this.

[Archangel 06]

I think what Dan is talking about is something like this:



If you could do that, and actually make it look good, then go for it. But no minigun. The only places I have seen pictures of a minigun mounted is on Helos.

[Switchback]

Ours is an attempt to mimic an SSUV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqzXueZS9NI

I remember this being on a thread a while ago; I love the music they play (armored vehicles strolling through the countryside)

[LiberalPacifist]

My opposition is along the lines of Beran's thinking;

A go-kart or ATV mocked up to look like a tactical vehicle or tank always looks just plain retarded, and ruins the atmosphere of the event. I'd rather see Tacoma with a 249 in the back than a plywood armored ATV.

Make a Toyota technical. That seems to be the closest a normal person can come to making an actual fighting vehicle, considering they are so common in Africa there has even been a war named after them. All you need is an old Asian 4X4 and an outdated support weapon or MMG, and you're golden.

As for whether it will be effective, probably not most places, MAYBE Warpaint Outdoor in Salem, if it is even allowed in. But if it isn't, then no biggie, 'cause its a car too (sans gun, obviously).

[Beran]

If you could do that, and actually make it look good, then go for it. But no minigun. The only places I have seen pictures of a minigun mounted is on Helos.

http://random.fifthgearonline.com/05080 ... inigun.jpg
http://www.dillonaero.com/uimages/new_pics/h12.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_v7Nd6pidYeQ/S ... ticool.JPG

[Archangel 06]

THOSE are some sweet looking humvees. Is that something new, or just a very limited deployment?