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Having the Latest and Greatest Guns

Postby Tactical Church » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:16 pm

So for a long time now i have been searching the web pages of evike, airsoft GI, and Airsoft Outlet NW looking for the best gun out there that will help me be the most competitive that i can be.

Then today i realized something and i wanna through it back into the minds of AP to see if you all agree or have a different view on it.

What i realized is that maybe instead of looking for what newest gun came out by the top named manufacturer and hoping that they had made some new achievement with this new gun

but rather instead looking at the guns i already have and look for the individual parts internally to make the gun great.

Now i know maybe alot of you have come across this theory but I have been buying guns and selling them every time it seems this new gun comes on the market and looks better than the one i already own.

Now i am going to ask you. what do you think? would you agree that any gun could be very competative with the right mix of parts? or would you say that there is some truth in the fact the "newest and greatest gun by so and so maker" is new frontier
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Postby chapped » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:33 pm

The player makes the game, not the gun.
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Postby CalvinB » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:34 pm

I personally just go with the gun that I like the best. I am currently using a ~2yo Echo 1 MP5SD. It has been pretty much maxed out as far as accuracy and range which is still fairly limited, but It's the most fun gun I'v ever used. So to combat my limited range I hang around people that can reach out and get the guys I can't. Our teams' fearless leader uses an old, stock TM G3 thats shooting 290fps, and he slays bodies. You don't need to have the latest and greatest to have fun or be competitive. However, there are people who enjoy having the latest and greatest, just like some people always have to have the newest car or computer. IMO there is nothing wrong with either way.

Moral of the story, go with what you like. If you go out with the right mindset you can have fun with a clear LPEG, you'll get killed a lot, but you can have fun. If you wanna buy the latest wonder gun, go for it, but don't feel like you have to.

Barrel and hop-up are going to be the heart of your accuracy and range. Most guns are going to need those things anyways, so go with what you like.
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Postby Tactical Church » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:35 pm

While i completely agree with that statement i do have to say it helps shooting a fully upgraded G&G M4 rather than the sporting goods 30$ plastic M4 that runs on AAA. you know?
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Postby Variable » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:48 pm

If you can't (or won't) manuever to be able to effectively shoot the enemy, it doesn't matter how good your gun is.

I've slain many a fool with my 270fps TM Mp5...
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Postby Tactical Church » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:51 pm

Well when you look at it that way i guess i can really see your point. So your all saying dont worry about the latest and greatest but on my own skills on the field?

Well the bright side of that is that it is alot nice on my wallet. haha.
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Postby ogrejager » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:40 pm

chapped wrote:The player makes the game, not the gun.


Yes.

BUT--if all is even in skills, a better gun will make one player better. The most awesome airsofter (and there's a few of you out there that are really good) will perform better with a good gun.

To the OP--no, not all guns can be made into great guns. But most of your good airsoft guns can be made into great guns. Also, there's something to be said for using and becoming used to one platform/gun. A gun that you've put 30,000 BB's through will be more comfortable and you'll know its capabilities.
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Postby Blizzard » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:46 pm

Although a dead-accurate gun with crazy range is an asset, I agree with Chapped and Variable: The guy behind the gun is what counts.

One of my team members runs with a stock UTG M324 and a stock TM MP5. It is not uncommon for him to come away from the field with over 30 "kills." If you know your gear well enough, it won't matter what it has inside. That said, I like my guns upgraded as much as possible just to have the extra edge.
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Postby Matt » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:59 pm

Most of it's crap anyway. With new features comes new problems. Stick with a manufacturer you trust and use their stuff.
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Postby Patrick750 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:24 pm

I'm competitive when i use my back up 3yr old CA sportline.
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Postby Limpy » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:36 pm

Having a newer gun is cool, but not always better, as many have stated. I've seen an eight year old TM AK shoot just like it did right out of the box at FC training. Some guns are just built to last, some aren't.

I'll stick with CA for as long as I live, or unless some substantial evidence tells me otherwise.
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Postby Rentax » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:40 pm

It's all about play style...
Can an aftermath M4 be just as deadly as a G&G M4? Yes in the right hands with the right field craft... Can Variable kill fools with his TM MP5, Yes he's got the field craft and the know how. Can I be a competitor on the field running with only my pistol? I would like the think Yes. Should each people play the game different basses on what replica they have in their hands knowing their weapons limitations and adjusting for them. ABSOLUTELY!
Will having the newest, latest, hottest gun be a matter of pride for you, maybe, but will it make you a better player, probably not. Like Matt said, most of the newest stuff comes with problems that they won't flush out till "gen2" (or 3) So having the newest toys is always fun, but just know that you will be the one testing the waters to see how long that gearbox will last, or how well that hop-up unit works.

All gearboxes can be tuned up to shoot better, stronger, or faster, and based on you game play you may decide that rate of fire is more important, or maybe FPS is better, or maybe you will leave it with stock parts and just re-shim it add ball barrings. These are the choices we make, some make them based one needing 400 FPS with great distance and deadly accurate and high torque motors and hexical gears and... guns that usually break because they are trying to push the limits of their replica and forget that the most important thing is if it doesn't work, you don't get to play. Others see the light and learn their weapons flaws and compensate for them with better field craft... My suggestion now and always is figure out how you ALREADY play, figure out how you WOULD LIKE to play, change what needs to be changed in you, then change what needs to be changed in your replica. Otherwise you will be trying to compensate for angles you can't conceive.
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Postby Tactical Church » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:53 pm

Rentax wrote:It's all about play style...
Can an aftermath M4 be just as deadly as a G&G M4? Yes in the right hands with the right field craft... Can Variable kill fools with his TM MP5, Yes he's got the field craft and the know how. Can I be a competitor on the field running with only my pistol? I would like the think Yes. Should each people play the game different basses on what replica they have in their hands knowing their weapons limitations and adjusting for them. ABSOLUTELY!
Will having the newest, latest, hottest gun be a matter of pride for you, maybe, but will it make you a better player, probably not. Like Matt said, most of the newest stuff comes with problems that they won't flush out till "gen2" (or 3) So having the newest toys is always fun, but just know that you will be the one testing the waters to see how long that gearbox will last, or how well that hop-up unit works.

All gearboxes can be tuned up to shoot better, stronger, or faster, and based on you game play you may decide that rate of fire is more important, or maybe FPS is better, or maybe you will leave it with stock parts and just re-shim it add ball barrings. These are the choices we make, some make them based one needing 400 FPS with great distance and deadly accurate and high torque motors and hexical gears and... guns that usually break because they are trying to push the limits of their replica and forget that the most important thing is if it doesn't work, you don't get to play. Others see the light and learn their weapons flaws and compensate for them with better field craft... My suggestion now and always is figure out how you ALREADY play, figure out how you WOULD LIKE to play, change what needs to be changed in you, then change what needs to be changed in your replica. Otherwise you will be trying to compensate for angles you can't conceive.


Thank you all for the input. this and other posts really helped my out today. i really apprecite it and i think you all make a good point that working on skills is the way to go rather than the gun
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