FPS

by **ducks4t** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:12 pm

I plan on getting a G&G GR 16. They have about 330 FPS. I was wondering if that would be enough for woodland airsoft wars. Will it be able to make the far shots i take accurately?

by **Icepick** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:16 pm

It all depends on the internals, everybody is going to tell you about how good TMs are... Yet they don't have that 380-390 fps that most people want. Your Combat Machine will do just fine against all the other replicas out on the field, and as will be stated, fps =/= accuracy.

If you want a more accurate replica, save some money and correct AOE, re-shim, and improve the compression on your replica. After that, upgrade the bucking, nub, and barrel to see the most noticable affects on the replica.

by **Switchback** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:20 pm

As I'm sure you will hear, it is not about the FPS in an AEG. The distance will be more strongly dependent on the quality of air seal in the internals. Focus on getting a good cylinder, piston/piston head, air nozzle, and a hop up that fits well with the air nozzle. A PDI internal barrel seems to be the best choice, but with a GR 16, a madbull 6.03 will be sufficient.
Good Air Seal+Decent enough TBB+GOOD QUALITY AMMO=distance and consistency

Leave it at 330, you should be able to get it up to 350-360 with getting your internals tuned just so.

by **Transition** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:24 pm

Icepick wrote:It all depends on the internals, everybody is going to tell you about how good TMs are... Yet they don't have that 380-390 fps that most people want. Your Combat Machine will do just fine against all the other replicas out on the field, and as will be stated, fps =/= accuracy.

If you want a more accurate replica, save some money and correct AOE, re-shim, and improve the compression on your replica. After that, upgrade the bucking, nub, and barrel to see the most noticable affects on the replica.

yes buy a brand new working aeg, than take it apart, I dont see anything wrong with this plan at all

by **Icepick** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:32 pm

Switchback wrote:A PDI internal barrel seems to be the best choice, but with a GR 16, a madbull 6.03 will be sufficient.

(I think it is fair to say this about any replica, but thats just my personal opinion.)

Also, if you know what your doing and have the parts, within the first week that you get your replica the thing should be tuned up. Just get it out of the way before it ends up having a plastic spring guide or bushing fail on you...

by **Ivan Daylovich™** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:43 pm

My TM AK shoots 270. It still slays bodies.
Just means I have to get a little bit closer.

by **'Skyhawk'** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:46 pm

yes buy a brand new working aeg, than take it apart, I dont see anything wrong with this plan at all

Yeah....I would stay away from the gearbox until you have to open it, unless you do it all the time. Just throw a tight bore barrel in it and new bucking. It's a simple job to do and there are online guides on youtube to show you the way. You can gain 10 to 25 fps and increase your accuracy/range too. And there's not so many small springy parts involved that shoot across the room and get lost.

by **Sodak** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:54 pm

Transition wrote:yes buy a brand new working aeg, than take it apart, I dont see anything wrong with this plan at all

While many guns are great out-of-the-box. Almost every gun can be improved to make it the best it can possibly be. In order to do this you WILL have to upgrade the internals and as others said tweak your gun as necessary. Its just a fact of the matter.

by **ducks4t** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:01 pm

If I have to upgrade it then i will. But without any upgrades, will it do a good job in a woodland battle. Or should I keep looking?

by **Icepick** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:05 pm

Icepick wrote:Your Combat Machine will do just fine against all the other replicas out on the field.

Don't worry too much about the gun, just be aware of the fact that you can advance an extra 20 feet instead of spend an extra $35 to get the accuracy you want.

by **Sodak** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:09 pm

ducks4t wrote:If I have to upgrade it then i will. But without any upgrades, will it do a good job in a woodland battle. Or should I keep looking?

It should do fairly well, i prefer a higher FPS but thats just me.
Ont the plus side: you will be able to use it for CQB.

by **Minerva** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:57 pm

Nothing exceeding 350 FPS is necessary anywhere. A good hop up paired with a 6.04-6.05 barrel and a madbull blue bucking will be fine. Most manufacturers that have higher FPS are compensating for terrible accuracy and compression by installing a higher rated spring.

My 2 cents

by **'Skyhawk'** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:01 pm

Sodak wrote:It should do fairly well, i prefer a higher FPS but thats just me.
Ont the plus side: you will be able to use it for CQB.

For me it is more than preference. A higher FPS allows you to fire a heavier BB. A heavier BB has more inertia and so is less affected by wind and other elements. This increases accuracy and hitting power.

It may do OK outdoor depending on the conditions and the hopup. Don't expect everyone to notice getting hit though their gear though. At least it's not at 270 FPS Crikey! Most high end GBB side arms are at 330-350 FPS.

YouTube · by **Kendodude** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:28 am

Last time I chronoed my super old TM AK it was shooting 218... I still slayed bodies.

by **Jester316** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:45 am

I got more kills with my CA SCAR that shot 270fps, with stock barrel/bucking combo. If you know how to tweak it (or use a stock TM) than lower fps is better (IE: quieter, more ROF, less stress...).

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