HELP: Looking to upgrade JG AUG-A3.

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HELP: Looking to upgrade JG AUG-A3.

Postby Brazlo » Sat May 07, 2011 3:03 pm

Hello everyone, this is my first post on the AirsoftPacific forums.. :shock:

This January I purchased a JG AUG-A3, and have used it in several skirmishes since then. I have been pleased by its stock performance, and my only complaint would be the weight (and I sometimes find bb's inside the stock? I think this may happen when I am removing a mag...).

Now, I am looking to upgrade its internals.. I play in a fairly wide-open grassy/sandy/bushy area, and often find myself looking at people knowing I can't hit them at their range. While the gun does have some impressive range (relative to stock guns), I am looking to get some more out of it with internal upgrades.

I have never upgraded an airsoft gun before (my only previous gun is the Echo-1 E90, which I left stock). I have been doing my research as to upgrading a gun's accuracy, and it appears I have a few things to look at.. A tightbore barrel, a hop-up bucking, and a hop-up nub (?). I'm convinced these, when upgraded, will provide the biggest boost in accuracy...
What would you recommend I buy to overhaul my accuracy? For a tightbore, I would prefer a 6.03, so that the maintenance is a little less than that of a 6.01.

I have started leaning towards this Madbull 6.03 (the price appeals to me): http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=1231

What sort of hop-up upgrades should I look into?

If possible, I would like to keep it all under $100, as I'd like to have a little money reserved for an optic or low-mag. scope.

One final sidenote: I am planning on modifying one of my spare 9.6v minis to fit in the battery compartment of my A3. Are there any parts I should plan on upgrading due to greater stress on the internals(from the higher voltage/rof)?

Thanks all! :smile:
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Postby shakespeare » Sat May 07, 2011 3:10 pm

Generally a hopup bucking and tightbore give the best improvement.
A nub is the little piece of rubber inside the hopup that pushes down on the bucking. If you do get a new one, do yourself a favor and get an H-nub, which is smaller in the middle, which gives two contact points on the BB.
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Postby pappyjump » Sat May 07, 2011 7:45 pm

Thank you for doing your homework before you post on the forums. Yes, you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the accuracy upgrades. Now i do not believe that you need to add anything to the gearbox to get it to run a 9.6, but if you feel inclined, i would recommend removing the bushings (The circular things that the axles of the gears spin in) and replace them with ball bearings.
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Postby league 4 » Sat May 07, 2011 8:16 pm

Keep in mind the bb's you use make a big difference too. Heavier, high quality bb's can give you more range.
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Postby Brazlo » Sat May 07, 2011 10:39 pm

Thanks for the quick replies, folks. :smile:

Would getting a new nub make a significant difference?

pappyjump: What would be the advantage of replacing my bushings with ball bearings?

So, if I were to purchase a new 6.03 barrel, bucking, and nub.. What models would anyone recommend? I'm looking for good performance, but not necessarily the *best* possible parts. Affordability is definitely a factor.

(Thanks for the tip league 4, I am a fan of bio .25's)
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Postby Payback » Sat May 07, 2011 10:42 pm

Bushings to ball bearings should only help increase your rate of fire. May also slightly quiet the gun down, but i doubt you'll notice, as far as i know that is the only advantage of ball bearings over bushings.
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Postby pappyjump » Sat May 07, 2011 11:03 pm

Well from my experience with JG AUGs, they come with plastic bushings. Plastic bushings warp over extended periods of time.
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Postby Beran » Sat May 07, 2011 11:16 pm

bearings will extend the life of the gun (JGs are a flip of the coin for bushings. ive seen some with plastic and some with metal. depends on which batch it is and the only way to know for sure is to look). the bearings can also dramatically increase the battery efficiency. bearings are designed to be lower resistance than bushings, and less resistance is less that the battery has to push the motor through. i had bearings installed on my CA SA58 to replace the metal bushings and the amount of shots i got out of the 3000mah battery i had in it went from about 2000ish to well over 3000ish. rate of fire also skyrocketed, and the gun sounds much healthier now.

if it were my AUG, i would get the mad bull barrel you are looking at (there are better barrels, but the mad bulls are a good balance of performance and cost) and one of the mad bull blue buckings, and then see how it shoots. i would also get the bushings replaced with bearings, but it depends on your gearbox. if the box has 6mm holes for the bushings/bearings then honestly i wouldnt bother with the bearings, id just get some metal bushings instead of the nylon ones (assuming they are nylon to begin with). if they are 7mm or larger though, the bearings are a must.

ive also found .30s to be a great investment for accuracy, but they can be a bit harder to find in bios. .28 bios are a little easier to come by, but i wouldn't run heavier than .30s through an AEG.
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Postby Brazlo » Sun May 08, 2011 12:43 am

I see... Well, as far as I can tell from all sorts of Googling; the A3 comes with 7mm bearings. I don't know what sort of quality they are.. I suppose anything I get would be better than stock, eh? At this point, though, I think I'd like to avoid tinkering inside the gearbox unless it's really necessary.. Like I said, I'm a noob to upgrading/internals.

So I think at this point, I'm leaning towards getting...
Madbull 6.03 Inner Barrel
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Systema Hop Up Bucking
(Is this a mistake? I'm inclined to purchase this bucking because it's overall reputation appears to be much better than the Madbull Blue Bucking).

Is there anything else I should get? Some sort of nub?.. Other hopup improvements? I really appreciate everyone's input so far, but am still uncertain as to what I should purchase.
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Postby Beran » Sun May 08, 2011 1:18 am

ive had outstanding results with the blue mad bull buckings. i have them in almost all of my 40ish guns.

systema was the be all end all back in the day, but if you ask me they got complacent and their quality control has dropped significantly in the last couple years.
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Postby Brazlo » Sun May 08, 2011 1:26 am

Well, that certainly sounds good to me.
Do you know if the Blue Mad Bull bucking will fit in the A3 without any modification? I think that has been the main complaint, it's apparently large..?

Also.. Should I purchase one of these? Or is it necessary.. H-Shape Hop Up Spacer
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Postby Beran » Sun May 08, 2011 9:39 am

id try the other upgrades first, and if you are still getting some side to side play on your shots, then get the H nub. as for the mad bull bucking length, sometimes they are a little long, but they can be trimmed down. they can be a tight fit in some hopup units too, but that's a good thing. it means a better seal and less play so it wont move around.
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Postby league 4 » Sun May 08, 2011 2:55 pm

Yeah, madbull buckings can be tough to install because of the thickness but I'm currently getting very nice results with one in my primary. They might make your FPS jump up somewhat significantly and the JG AUG should already be shooting ~400+FPS so keep that in mind.
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Postby B.O.P. Hawk » Sun May 08, 2011 5:55 pm

That Tightbore you have selected is a good one, but you said the deciding factor was maintenance... you should clean your barrel after every game no matter what bore you have. So, getting a 6.01 is not going to be any harder to maintain than a 6.03.
In my experience there is a big difference in accuracy between 6.03 and 6.01, though others will argue with this. 6.01 is noticeably more accurate, especially at long ranges and higher FPS.

With that said, check this out: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=6170
If you are willing to spend a little more than $35, then I would go with this barrel.

It all comes down to what you decide to do, though. It's all a matter of what you believe is better. You should, however look at some of the discussions here on AP, and watch that ASGI video if you haven't already.
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Postby Brazlo » Sun May 08, 2011 8:22 pm

Alrighty, I've placed my orders... Purchased:

Madbull 6.03 Tightbore
Madbull Blue Hop Up Bucking
.25g Biodegrades
Scope Rings
NcStar 2-6x30 Scope
Anti-Fog Wipes
UTG Folding Grip
Metal Flash Hider

I think that's everything. I completely forgot about the H-nubs.. I guess we'll see how the Madbull ones hold up. I stuck with the 6.03 because I feel like the area I play in isn't very 6.01-friendly (sand, wind, lots of plants)..

I really appreciate everyone's input and advice.. And it should be fun getting my A3 together. Is there any sort of way to give feedback to posters?

Thanks a lot, all! :smile:

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