Is this a good set up for a DMR?

[God]

Recently bought this, wondering if it will work as a medium->long range DMR. I consider a DMR in airsoft as a rifle that fires 400fps consistently accurate to 150-200ft. Do these upgrades sound viable to do the above actions?



M4 Hurricane shooting mid 400’s
(seller suppose to be downgrading to precise 400fps)
Classic Army Reinforced Ver.2 GearBox
Oiliness Bushings
Polycarb Piston
M120 Spring
MadBull 60 Degree Bucking
MadBull 509mm New Version Python 6.03mm Tight Bore Barrel
MadBull Ultimate Hop Up
Guarder Infinite Torque-up Motor
Guarder Ball Bearing Spring Guide
Full Cylinder
King Arms Full Metal Hop up
Full metal upper/lower receiver with working cocking handle
z HurricanE M16 S-System Metal Body Adaptor
Full metal front Tactical Rail System (RIS)
Carry handle or rear flipup sight
Full 1 peice M16 length outer barrel
Ergo grip
Trigger guard
Bipod
ACOG or AimPoint

[PanzerFaust]

your definition of dmr is broad enough to cover the majority of aeg's in airsoft.

[Patrick750]

My "DMR" is accurate to a bit more then 200 feet and all it is, is a m16 with madbull hop up, blue bucking, new piston, and TBB. All those upgrades you listed will be a little...over kill...Especially if you only want to shoot to 150-200 feet.

[God]

Over-kill? But if I want a long lasting ever-consistent AEG, isn't that a good thing? How many games of the AP community allow a 450fps DMR category?

[Patrick750]

Over-kill? But if I want a long lasting ever-consistent AEG, isn't that a good thing? How many games of the AP community allow a 450fps DMR category?

Well over kill if you only want 150-200 feet. For a DMR definitely a good set up. When it comes to FPS; unless it becomes a universal rule to allow 450 FPS i'm sticking with my 390 fps. It works for my DMR and is allowed at every game and i get to keep full auto (even though i never use it...). you can over course swap out springs if you're good at it and like to do that before every game..I noticed on your list you had an aimpoint listed: I've been using an aimpoint on my DMR for a while now and each tiny upgrade after each tiny upgrade makes me really want a 2X zoom. Just some things to think about.

[God]

Well, given the upgrade list, what would you guess the accurate range is?

I've been strongly considering investing in a magnifying ACOG(mine doesn't).

Seller will be putting in a 400fps spring for me, so no issue there-

[Patrick750]

Well, given the upgrade list, what would you guess the accurate range is?

I've been strongly considering investing in a magnifying ACOG(mine doesn't).

Seller will be putting in a 400fps spring for me, so no issue there-

pretty damn accurate seeing as though your replacing like every part in the gun. My rifle can outrange (with the little internal upgrades it has) my friend's E1 M28 with TBB by quite a bit. Also a DMR is never complete without a sick paintjob

also some thing's i didn't notice in your list is upgrades that make your gun air-tight. Pistons, piston heads, cylinders, and everything that has to do with the propulsion of air should be airtight without any leaks for a solid and consistent DMR

[glockmeister]

Nice setup, but why do you want to get a m16 style gun =/ I went with an sr25 look and it is awesome. Probably around the same price too.

[God]

I couldn't find a SR25 for the price. I mean this thing was pre-upgraded for $320shipped. From a seller with lots of feedback.

[Beran]

unless they are broken or just plain garbage, there is no need to replace the majority of the internal parts if you are looking for an accurate long range rifle.

here's what i consider the requirements for a "DMR" as covered by the current ruleset:

1. 380-400fps. upgrade it to this velocity if its not already there. this may be a new spring, better compression, and stronger parts to compensate for the spring (the primary ones being bearings if they arent already there). gears/cylinders/pistons are unnecessary, unless they are already broken or just crappy parts. MAYBE a new piston o-ring to fix any compression issues. MAYBE a new motor if your old one isnt strong enough, or you want a slightly faster trigger response.

2. a good tightbore barrel, as long as you can manage (to a point. i find that the 510mm M16 length barrels are just about right for my taste). opinions vary on brand and ID, ive had good results with DBC 6.01 and prometheus 6.03.

3. a good hopup unit. crappy hopups will cause compression loss due to loss of seal around the nozzle, and if badly made even inserting a certain brand of magazine can cause the unit to pull slightly off the front of the gearbox, and drop the rifles velocity considerably. im partial to the mad bull and modify one piece hopups.

4. a good bucking. this can make a huge difference. i install the madbull blue buckings in just about every gun i want to be able to hit a target with past 150 feet. they can be tight fits sometimes, but if you are careful that just means a better seal.

5. heavy ammo. at LEAST .25g BBs will improve your accuracy considerably. look at ammo specifics, not all brands are created equal. quite often these days you will find manufacturers listing outer diameter on their ammo, you wouldn't think .03mm would make a big difference, but the accuracy increase of 5.98mm ammo (if you can find it) over 5.95mm is noticeable.

6. a scope with 2x-4x magnification. you don't strictly speaking NEED an optic, and you cant assume that the BBs will fly to the crosshairs every time, but after you get used to your rifle and watch where rounds are flying you will get a much better idea of the trajectory of your shot. i actually like my optics to be off, so i can watch the path of the BB more clearly and adjust for followup shots if needed.

lipo batteries are also nice to have, as the higher output rating makes for snappier trigger response in semiauto.

i have a six or seven year old G&G M16A4 at 385fps with a DBC 6.01 barrel, a madbull hopup with the blue bucking, and a 4x ACOG. shooting some really nice 5.99mm .25g BBs out of it three or four years ago, i got hits on the same guy twice in ten minutes from a range we paced out to 275 feet, firing on semiauto. i took 3-5 shots to hit him each time. the moral of the story is, you don't need a jillion dollars worth of parts to have a rifle that is accurate at long range.

[God]

Hey, thanks for your input.I think the 2 main things I'll be needing/wanting will be a 4x optic and really nice bbs.

I don't want to start a big argument, just a simple-ish answer will suffice;

Are lipos worth converting to? Are they a hassle to convert to? Do you think the above upgrades could handle a 11.1v lipo? How much would a moderate lipo set up cost me?

[Beran]

the big cost in lipos these days is the charger. you have to get a lipo ready charger that usually costs somewhere between $50 and $75.

just about any gun will handle a 7.2v lipo with no upgrades, and it performs about like most 9.6v nimhs will, its just smaller. an 11.1 needs bearings and good quality gears and motor. having wiring that doesn't suck is a plus too.

[Jester316]

I use this charger for this battery. Works great, but you have to provide the cord from the wall to the charger.

[glockmeister]

You don't need to buy the gun but buy the conversion kit, evike sells them for 100 bucks a peice, its a full metal conversion kit that may need some extra shims for the barrel to keep still (I went with a rubber o ring and it holds it solid). Then I got a madbull quicksilver manufacturing licensed half thread silencer that fits right inside the RIS. The trademarks rest right on the side and you can see em perfectly, it also looks sweet.

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info ... s_id=28682

http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info ... s_id=28683

[God]

I already bought/paid for it. The question now is, is anything more needed to make it better? Maybe a Prometheus 6.01 509mm tbb instead of a MadBull 6.03?

Might try a lipo someday- When I'm not dirt poor. =)