Holster placement

[Bad Karma]

Throw the dump pouch in the trash, mount your secondary in a SERPA drop leg.

Why? Just curious. Seems like weird advice to give considering how useful DPs are. I use mine almost every game I attend and I know 90% of SOTA does as well.

Policing evidence in a scenario? Dump pouch it!

Engaged in heavy fire and need to quickly reload, but don't want to throw your mags in the mud? Dump pouch it!

Found someone's lost gear and need to take it to the admin booth? Dump pouch it!

[$tealth]

I third the cross draw. I have that setup on my rig (yes, the noob has a chest rig) and it rarely gets in the way on my right side, dunno how that works, but it does. I shoot pistol lefty and rifle righty (I'm left handed and right eye dominant) so my setup is probably a bit akward for you...

[MarksInnerDemon]

I will be posting my rig setup ideas my friend and I wargamed out here in a bit. (midnight here when I can yank my laptop out) Anyways dump pouches were a requirment where I was playing because we found more spent munitions, smoke gernades, and mil stuff then you see at most gun shows. You had to find someplace to put all that stuff. Now days its just a mag carry place, but I still think pretty important.

[VogonFord]

I side with Jester on this. I usually just toss empty magazines in my pockets. BDUs have large enough pockets for AK magazines, so unless you're using a Bren gun you should be fine.

As to holsters, Serpas are nice, although the hip holsters tend to ride a little too high while the droplegs are a little too low. The only holster I've tried that was at the perfect height was the M1912 Cavalry holster, which is pricey but is not only a beautiful piece of leatherwork but also is incredibly comfortable to draw from and sits well on the leg. The other thing is that it would limit you to the 1911, but it's not like that's a bad thing. That said, I use a belt Serpa with my Glock 26, it just takes some getting used to with the arm angle. It is very fast, though, and the nice thing is that magazines never drop out of them.

[Steve]

Throw the dump pouch in the trash, mount your secondary in a SERPA drop leg.

Why? Just curious. Seems like weird advice to give considering how useful DPs are. I use mine almost every game I attend and I know 90% of SOTA does as well.

Policing evidence in a scenario? Dump pouch it!

Engaged in heavy fire and need to quickly reload, but don't want to throw your mags in the mud? Dump pouch it!

Found someone's lost gear and need to take it to the admin booth? Dump pouch it!

Generally speaking, there are two types of reloads. Deliberate reloads, where you have a few seconds / minutes / hours to swap mags, and hasty reloads, where you are under fire, or expect to be in the next instant.

If you need a new mag right this second, then worrying about where the old one ends up is pretty worthless, really. Just drop the spent mag, and recover it later (assuming you come out on top in the exchange). Conversely, if you have half of forever to reload, take the few extra seconds to replace the empty in a mag carrier.

Dump pouches rattle, hang up on stuff, and generally get in the way. Plus, if you are taking the time to place a mag in a dump pouch during a hasty reload, that is a second or two that is not spent bringing your primary back up and into the fight. So, specific to magazines and the reloading process, dump pouches are atrocious.

Now, a folding dump pouch and a cargo pocket full of gallon sized ziplock bags can be remarkably useful for real life / scenario play. But not for magazines. I run one of the 5.11 folding dump pouches on the back of my armor at the 7 o'clock position when I am out playing Army one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer. I generally unfold it, line it with a ziplock, and then fold it back up. Folded up, it's about the same dimensions as a single m-4 mag pouch. If I have to do EPW handling, I can unfold the dump pouch, do my search, and put everything I pull off of the target into the dump pouch. When I'm done with the search, I just pull the ziplock out, seal it, and set it behind the guy. Replace the ziplock, and on to round two, rinsing and repeating as necessary. But the only way a magazine is seeing the inside of that pouch is if I pulled it off somebody else, and only after the shooting is done.

[Eudorus]

Steve is right imho but if you absolutely must have a dumper then drop leg it on your weak side and put the sidearm on your belt at the three or four position. You should be able to reach it even under the most disadvantageous situations.

[Bad Karma]

Yes, if I were in desert shooting at brown people that would make absolute sense. Drop the mags on the ground and continue give suppressive fire to your threat. But I'm in the Oregon forest, shooting plastic BBs at a bunch of 12 year olds, and I'll be goddamned if I'm dropping my $35 Magpul PMAGs in the dirt.

[Steve]

Yes, if I were in desert shooting at brown people that would make absolute sense. Drop the mags on the ground and continue give suppressive fire to your threat. But I'm in the Oregon forest, shooting plastic BBs at a bunch of 12 year olds, and I'll be goddamned if I'm dropping my $35 Magpul PMAGs in the dirt.

Then put them back in their pouches, or use a dump pouch, or attach hook-side velcro to the side of the mag and loop side to your leg / helmet / teammate's genitalia / x-box controller.

Or, man up, drop 'em in the dirt, and go back for the mags later.

Fractions of a second add up. And habits learned in training are habits applied in contact.

[congofal]

Steve is right , drop the mag and and go back to get it later , i was taught that way , drop the mag , put in a new one and put rounds downrange.
I use a Drop Leg Holster , always have .

[Payback]

Yes, if I were in desert shooting at brown people that would make absolute sense. Drop the mags on the ground and continue give suppressive fire to your threat. But I'm in the Oregon forest, shooting plastic BBs at a bunch of 12 year olds, and I'll be goddamned if I'm dropping my $35 Magpul PMAGs in the dirt.

+1 here,



There is a difference. A HUGE difference. Maybe more people should realize this.

[congofal]

Not all desert people are brown by the way.

[Jester316]

Yes, if I were in desert shooting at brown people that would make absolute sense. Drop the mags on the ground and continue give suppressive fire to your threat. But I'm in the Oregon forest, shooting plastic BBs at a bunch of 12 year olds, and I'll be goddamned if I'm dropping my $35 Magpul PMAGs in the dirt.

+1 here,



There is a difference. A HUGE difference. Maybe more people should realize this.

That's what you get for being a magpul fanboy though... Cheap midcaps are cheap. Drop them, kick them, bury them in snow. I've been using the same metal ones for a couple years now...

[Ivan Daylovich™]

I've been using the same metal ones for a couple years now...

I can never hang on to them that long.

[Eudorus]

There is a point where advanced equipment starts being a liability.

[McNair]

WHo bleeding cares if works for some people and not for others?

No one is dying in airsoft, so shazaam it.

This "my way is the only way" bs is tiresome especially coming from a bunch of adults.