G36E support gunner?

[Steve]

For airsoft you can use a G36E with a box mag as a MG36. I have used one and have one still. Ignore all the trolls.

By that logic, M4's with Beta-C mags and AK's with drums should be considered legit support weapons.

Without the heavier barrel, it's not an MG-36. Even with the heavier barrel, it was such a shitty concept and/or execution that it was never adopted. If you want a German machine gun, build an MG-4.

[Junto]

Worst idea I ever tried to have. Abandon it now.

[Mopply]

I ran an MG36 and it works. The main difference between the full length G36 and the MG36 was the C-Mag, Heavier barrel, and thats about it. I'm actually selling one right now if you're interested. PM me. (Shameless self promotion)

Anyway, for airsoft it is practical because it is light weight, easy to store, good ammo capacity but lacks a battery power unless you get either

A) A Battery Sling to hide the large battery
B) KV Stock and wire it to the back
C) Duct tape a big battery somewhere
D) Battery bag mounted on the stock
E) Deal with it and use 9.6v 1600 Mah nunchuck batteries and change them out as soon as they die. (Like Me )

It was a very upgradable platform, lightweight, and a decent amount of customization was available compared to other light machine guns. Be warned though that MilSim events might not allow it to use LMG rules because it is not actually used, but you can always just buy midcap magazines and use those when you go to milsim games.

[dos_Santos]

Asinine

[Steve]

For airsoft you can use a G36E with a box mag as a MG36. I have used one and have one still. Ignore all the trolls.

By that logic, M4's with Beta-C mags and AK's with drums should be considered legit support weapons.

Without the heavier barrel, it's not an MG-36. Even with the heavier barrel, it was such a shitty concept and/or execution that it was never adopted. If you want a German machine gun, build an MG-4.

There are no "heavier" barrels in airsoft...what this kid is trying to do is legit, as practical as can be, to replicate a real life weapon, and is completely different than someone trying to get away with adding beta-c and drum mags to an M4/AK platform. I agree with Ash, go for it.

What's the difference between an AK and a RPK? Slightly longer stock, different barrel. Difference between a G-36 and a MG-36? Slightly longer stock and a different barrel. Will an AK feed from a RPK drum? Yep. Does that make it a RPK? Nope.

Looks like somebody has some machining to do to convert their G-36 into a MG-36. Or, you know, spend less effort and get a support weapon that actually entered service.

[VogonFord]

Another thing is that AK drum magazines are actually common in real life, and used on guns other than the RPK, unlike G36 C mags, which are incredibly rare. Here's some Spetsnaz with them on their AKMSs with PBS-1s. (Note: the RPK in the picture is an RPK-74, and there is no Russian made drum magazines in 5.45x39)



As far as MG36s go, I think they're stupid, but I don't really care if people run them. I've run drum magazines in AKs so many times I don't care if other people use them.

[dos_Santos]

Asinine

[pulsipher]

A Bull barrel, bipod handguard and a Dual optic carry handle are the min requirements for the externals, you COULD throw on a KV stock for good measure.

the internals should be able to withstand some hefty abuse too

[Steve]

What's the difference between an AK and a RPK? Slightly longer stock, different barrel. Difference between a G-36 and a MG-36? Slightly longer stock and a different barrel. Will an AK feed from a RPK drum? Yep. Does that make it a RPK? Nope.

Looks like somebody has some machining to do to convert their G-36 into a MG-36. Or, you know, spend less effort and get a support weapon that actually entered service.

Are you talking about real life? Even wikipedia has a photo of a standard G36 with a beta-c mag. Tell you what, make the G36E a K (shorter barrel and fore-grip), then add your C-mag and you will be like the German special forces, problem solved. No machining necessary.

Except, the issue is that only support weapons get box mags at the larger events. The OP is looking for a justification to slap a box beneath his G-36.

AK's aren't approved support weapons, even though the same airsoft box mag will feed an AK and a RPK. The drum is useable on the RPK, but not the AK. A Beta C-mag will lock into a M-4, but M-4s aren't support weapons, so Beta C-mags on an M-4 are a no-go.

Using that same logic, slapping a box mag under a G-36 doesn't make it a MG-36. The other visual conversions (longer thicker barrel, different stock) are what differentiates a G-36 from a MG-36. A semi-trained observer can look at an unloaded G-36 next to an unloaded MG-36 and easily tell them apart. The Beta mag is not the difference. The physical changes to the platform are the difference.

If the mods to convert it from a G-36 to a MG-36 aren't done, it's not a MG-36, and not a support weapon that can use box mags. Simple, pure logic, and follows the same rules that apply to EVERY OTHER AEG out there.

If I was looking to do the custom work to convert something to a unique support weapon, I'd be seeing what it took to add the fire control group from a MP-5 to a SAW, and figuring out what other bits of machining I needed to do to build a MP-4. If I had to do the conversion from a G-36 to a MG-36, I'd be looking at getting my hands on a PSG-1 outer barrel, or something similar, and machining it to size, and then figuring out what to do about the stock.

[Icepick]

Real steel is real steel, and airsoft is airsoft. There is no true way to make an MG36 in airsoft, other than adding a drum mag onto a G36 variant...

Seriously, how is this even an argument? As long as it isn't a G36C, just put a drum mag on it and have fun.

[Snowman]

Pretty sure some random ACM company makes MG36 barrels. Check UNCompany or something.

[dos_Santos]

Asinine

[LiquidSnak]

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/ruger-10-22-50-rd-drum.aspx?a=506870

I guess the 1911 drum magazine that Americans have IN REAL LIFE, and are most certainly standard military issue, isn't null and void then either... thus should be used for MIL SIM games.



The 10/22 has a drum mag too, but you don't see kids wanting a 10/22 support weapon replica...

Just because it exists doesn't mean it was a good idea.

[league 4]

According to your logic, the G36 with C-Mag that der Germans have IN REAL LIFE is nul and void...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:G36_CMag.jpg
Note the NOTE.

He's not saying it doesn't exist, he's saying it's pretty much like putting a C mag in an M4 and calling it an LMG. Just because a real version of it exists, and it's technically possible, doesn't mean it should be.... Especially since beta mags don't even really work. And how exactly do they have it in real life if the actual MG36 project was cancelled, and beta mags don't work in the conditions over there?

[SPECDET1]

Wrong topic.