Blackwater Loadout

[xBEARx]

Gentlemen,
I am looking to make a loadout that is based on some sort of private military company. I want it to work for civilian type loadouts where the clothes look civilian like but I want it all in OD.
Let me know some ideas.

[LiquidSnak]

1. Wear clothes

2. Wear armor

3. Don sunglasses

[xBEARx]

Close but no cigar.
Like what kind of OD Pants should I get? What kind of boots do I get?
This kind of stuff. I want to use this loadout for Weekend Warriors as a survivor.

[LiquidSnak]

Or, you know, we could just refuse to help you. How many blackwater guys have you met?

[Jester316]

Get a Sig Sauer P226 Blackwater...

Wear Oakley Juliet Sunglasses

Grow a beard

Wear khaki pants and a black shirt

Wear an OD BDU belt

Gain 40lbs of muscle

[xBEARx]

shazaam it, I'll go naked.
With sunglasses because I need to look the part.
But here is another question:
Would it look dumb to wear OD on OD on OD? Like with everything matching?

[LiquidSnak]

Might as well try it out. And please, by all means go naked.

[Darius137]

Solid OD looks fine. It works very well in Oregon. You become a big green weenie.

CAG used to wear that as their SOP loadout. I liked it, when done right. Of course, every uniform will look good on me, because I am sexy.

[xBEARx]

I have decided to go with black pants with a OD top and OD gear with black boots and a ball cap of some sort. Then when I am playing I am going to be butt naked with sunglasses, a pistol, a cigar, and a extra mag wedged between my cheeks. Should be pretty damn sexy.

[DJ]

Google images, type "blackwater security" and you will see all you want. The company is now known as Xe pronounced "Zee" and is involved in the same type business as before.

check this place out too, you will find some pretty interesting stuff there
http://www.pmcpsc.com/companies.htm

I have some ...ahem... "connections", some living, some well....not, that played in this field.

For clothing suggestions, check out 5.11 tactical clothing line.

These people work in any environment / terrain / situation / mission, so pretty much what ever suits your fancy will work.


Hope this helps, best of luck.

[Nark]

Tan pants, black polo, pair of oakleys, plate carrier in od or tan, m4 or ak

[league 4]

I'd go with khaki Crye or 5.11 pants, any regular T shirt really as long as it's not cotton and not black, and depending on what type of look you're going for an MJK MAR CIRAS/Paraclete RAV/DBT Predator, or a safariland LVAC/PACA with a mini-MAV or some kind of chest rig or belt rig over it, a Crye belt rig would be pretty good for that. A lot of contractors aren't issued anything, but they usually have very strict SOPs they have to follow so for the actual impression a Condor plate carrier or some Condor MBSS wouldn't really work... And I'd go with MJK kit over OD kit, at the very least smoke green.

[xBEARx]

I really don't want to do a chest rig. I just wanted a good sniping rig over civilian clothes. But I wanted those clothes to be more like a security contracter woul wear.

[LiquidSnak]

I'd go with khaki Crye or 5.11 pants, any regular T shirt really as long as it's not cotton and not black, and depending on what type of look you're going for an MJK MAR CIRAS/Paraclete RAV/DBT Predator, or a safariland LVAC/PACA with a mini-MAV or some kind of chest rig or belt rig over it, a Crye belt rig would be pretty good for that. A lot of contractors aren't issued anything, but they usually have very strict SOPs they have to follow so for the actual impression a Condor plate carrier or some Condor MBSS wouldn't really work... And I'd go with MJK kit over OD kit, at the very least smoke green.

What other than cotton should it be, pray tell?

[Android]

Here's some info from some guy from another forum I frequent that used to be a contractor (not Blackwater/Xe AFAIK)

I'd like to throw in my two cents here.

As mentioned in the OP, the only purpose of a drop leg holster is to clear body armor. It doesn't help anything beyond that. Most drop legs are actually too low. The ideal point for them is around pocket level, so that the bottom of the holster touches mid-palm on your firing hand when your arms are hanging at your sides. Another option that I prefer is getting a drop attachment for a regular holster that puts it that low, without having to bother with the leg strap. I've been using G-Code holsters for about a year and really like the duty belt drop piece. Puts the holster exactly where it needs to be, without any leg straps.

Serpa holsters are crap. The button release can get clogged with debris and fail to release the pistol, and can also lead to NDs into one's leg. Unfortunately, they're also the most well-marketed holster right now.

Regarding body armor, I don't know it all that well in-depth, but my understanding is that you've got soft armor (kevlar) and hard plates (usually ceramic or steel.) Most good soft armor is rated to stop pistol rounds. Hard plates can be rated to stop regular rifle rounds all the way up to 7.62 AP rounds. It is extremely important to make note if your hard plates are ICW (in conjunction with) or stand alone. ICW plates require soft armor backing in order to be effective. If it doesn't say stand alone on the plate's label, assume it isn't.

Someone like Harry in Rio would be way better at explaining the specific differences between armor types, but that's my ground-level grunt view of it.

In terms of armor carriers, there's a ton of options out there. The more traditional MOLLE vests like the Eagle CIRAS and Paraclete RAV tend to be the largest and heaviest, but provide the most protection. They take BALCS or SPEAR-cut soft armor, which is large and expensive.
Lighter options include plate carriers like the Paraclete SOHPC (my current pick) or the newer Mayflower carriers that take concealment cut armor. What works best for you will depend on your mission and body type. In general, lighter and streamlined is better.

Where I buy my gear and armor stuff:
Grey Group Training
OP Tactical

My setup as of a few months ago, linked because I already img-posted in another gear thread and don't feel like spamming it again:

Left side

Right side

Back

That was my ideal setup, which unfortunately got ruined when I had to turn in my Sig and get issued a Glock. Since the PX here only had Serpa holsters, that's what I had to go with. Ironic, I know, but I'm planning on leaving this job next month, so I'm not that arsed about getting my Glock G-code holster sent out. Had to ditch my Eagle FB pistol mag pouch too since it's the version for metal-bodied mags and Glock mags are too thick. (That's what she said.) (No she didn't, you're Asian.) (Oh drat.)


I'm not a gear queer, I'm metro-tactical.

Note on the turnaround pics he's wearing a tan flight suit. I'm assuming that was his company's "uniform."

TL;DR. Wear whatever you want.