E1 240b or G&P Mk46?

[redneck1]

I’m getting a support gun here within the next couple of months and can’t make up my mind on which one to get. So I’m really looking for some good user input on these two platforms. I really like the 240 for the fact that it is pretty much a full auto sniper rifle fed buy a 4000 round mag. I like the mk46 for it looks and that it is semi compact and light weight to the 240 (weight is not a huge thing to me). One thing I noticed watching some videos on the mk46 is that it makes a horrific sound when the mag is winding up.

[Cloudyrains]

I'm a fag and think AP is reddit.

[redneck1]

I like more than the 240 but that sound the box mag makes is horiffic it would be nice to know how to fix that.

[STRIK3]

The Echo 1 M240B is pretty ungainly and extremely heavy, it's over 20 pound loaded and about 4 feet long. It works best as an emplaced weapon and it is very effective in this role. Our team has one we operated (before it broke) and it is, for the most part, impractical for use as a mobile platform that can be operated by a single, mobile individual if that is what you intend to use it for.

That being said, one of our guys has run around with it in the past and did well with it, he's a pretty small guy, but he is also in exceptionally good shape. I make no assumptions of your physical ability.

The reason the Mk46's box mag makes noise is because it uses an electric motor to feed BBs from the box. If you want to run a SAW but want something highly accurate and that wont slow you down too much, you might look at an RPK. They're cheaper than buying a SAW, use durable, tried-and-true AK architecture, handle more like an AR and have really nice range.

[Android]

I've used both the Echo1 M240B & the G&P Mk.46 I'll toss in my $0.02...

The 240B is a beast of a gun. Big, unwieldy, and very front-heavy in relation to where the pistol grip is to the rest of the gun. The box mag (while pleasantly timed to the gearbox to feed bb's) sits on the side and is held onto the feed tray by a fabric strap. Since it sits on the left side it can bang into you if you carry it around right-handed. Be aware that this is supposed to be a crew-serviced weapon, so in an ideal world you'd have a tripod that your a-gunner would carry around. You'd set up a position, stay prone & deny an area with suppressive fire all day.

The Mk.46 is smaller, (relatively) lighter, and in a pinch can be fired from the shoulder. I've had McNair break the box mag connector off my Mk.46 when he fell off a log at LOW4 & Jewish Ninja experienced similar breakage issues with his. Another thing to note is that the Mk.46 uses a V2 gearbox and both Jewish Ninja & I had stuff explode inside them (IIRC he fixed his, I dropped a Polarstar engine in mine ) so that also means you can only use G&P box mags instead of a smaller MAG M249 nutsack mag.

My favorite SAW/LMG that ran like a champ was my Classic Army Mk.46 SPW, especially now that Polarstar is rumored to be making a 249 engine. Yeah, it's not "accurate" in that it still had the STANAG magazine well & pintle, but that thing was a beast. Too bad mine was stolen...

[redneck1]

So I getting the idea that I should go with the mk46. Android, how much did it cost you to drop the polar star engine in and get all the needed stuff for it. I have seen a few other saws with those drop ins and they r by far the best things ever.

[Pharaoh 6]

I’m getting a support gun here within the next couple of months and can’t make up my mind on which one to get. So I’m really looking for some good user input on these two platforms. I really like the 240 for the fact that it is pretty much a full auto sniper rifle fed buy a 4000 round mag. I like the mk46 for it looks and that it is semi compact and light weight to the 240 (weight is not a huge thing to me). One thing I noticed watching some videos on the mk46 is that it makes a horrific sound when the mag is winding up.

I'd recommend you stick with an M4 or your preferred rifle platform. Judging by your post you don't seem to understand the concept behind machine guns, support weapons, or the automatic rifleman role.

Examples:
1. "pretty much a full auto sniper rifle fed buy a 4000 round mag" - incorrect. It is not a sniper rifle.
2. " I like the mk46 for it looks" - you don't buy a support weapon for how it looks. You buy it because you want to be a support gunner/automatic rifleman and you understand the principles behind the weapon system's use.
3. By doctrine in the Army the AR is the most experienced infantrymen in the fire team. He has already mastered the role of rifleman and then grenadier and is ready for more responsibility. Hence my recommendation you stick with being a rifleman.
4. You're 15 and the last thing this community needs is a another 15 year old running around with a weapon system he doesn't know how to use properly. (ie.... he just sprays and prays.)

P6

[redneck1]

1. "pretty much a full auto sniper rifle fed buy a 4000 round mag" - incorrect. It is not a sniper rifle.

If you read what I was saying I never said it was a sniper rifle. I was referring to the fact that it out ranges most field weapons and has a 590mm inner barrel. I do understand how to use one of these platforms and I am not a spray and pray type. So what if I’m not the most experienced gunner in the world, people like me who are willing to accept info from more experienced players such as yourself can only benefit from the time you have been in the role. I have used support weapons in the past and I enjoy being a base of fire gunner over running and gunning with my sr7.

[Gator]

Sorry dude. You said it was a sniper rifle. He used a quote from your original post.

[Android]

So I getting the idea that I should go with the mk46. Android, how much did it cost you to drop the polar star engine in and get all the needed stuff for it. I have seen a few other saws with those drop ins and they r by far the best things ever.

Starting with the base of the gun, add a fusion engine, air rig, and an air tank and you're looking at about $1400-$1500 (and this is if you do all the tech work yourself; labor can start adding up if you have a professional install it correctly).

If you are interested in the automatic rifleman role, I recommend reading these pages to understand what you'd be doing out in the field & how you work with your fellow riflemen. Also, being an automatic rifleman isn't cheap; you're going through a lot of ammo and maintenance can be expensive (if you have a professional fix your gun) or time consuming (if you're doing the work yourself). Finally I recommend being in shape; a SAW/LMG is heavy & won't get any lighter as the day lingers on. I had to get my fat a$$ back in the gym so that I can keep up with my teammates when towing around my Mk.46.

If you know somebody that has a SAW/LMG I suggest asking if you can borrow/rent it for a skirm/game to really see how different it is to utilize over a standard rifle. If you're still interested in the automatic rifleman role but the weight/size of the gun is an issue, I'd heed STRIK3's advice & try out an RPK (or maybe an IAR). I really don't care if you get a Mk.46, M240B, RPK, or a minigun; I just want you to recognize that being an automatic rifleman is challenging & may not be what you expect before dropping your hard-earned cash on a gun.

[pulsipher]

If you end up going with the 240 I can beat most folks prices shipped to your door. contact me if you go that route

[Switchback]

If you end up going with the 240 I can beat most folks prices shipped to your door. contact me if you go that route

Smooth...

[redneck1]

So I getting the idea that I should go with the mk46. Android, how much did it cost you to drop the polar star engine in and get all the needed stuff for it. I have seen a few other saws with those drop ins and they r by far the best things ever.

Starting with the base of the gun, add a fusion engine, air rig, and an air tank and you're looking at about $1400-$1500 (and this is if you do all the tech work yourself; labor can start adding up if you have a professional install it correctly).

If you are interested in the automatic rifleman role, I recommend reading these pages to understand what you'd be doing out in the field & how you work with your fellow riflemen. Also, being an automatic rifleman isn't cheap; you're going through a lot of ammo and maintenance can be expensive (if you have a professional fix your gun) or time consuming (if you're doing the work yourself). Finally I recommend being in shape; a SAW/LMG is heavy & won't get any lighter as the day lingers on. I had to get my fat a$$ back in the gym so that I can keep up with my teammates when towing around my Mk.46.

If you know somebody that has a SAW/LMG I suggest asking if you can borrow/rent it for a skirm/game to really see how different it is to utilize over a standard rifle. If you're still interested in the automatic rifleman role but the weight/size of the gun is an issue, I'd heed STRIK3's advice & try out an RPK (or maybe an IAR). I really don't care if you get a Mk.46, M240B, RPK, or a minigun; I just want you to recognize that being an automatic rifleman is challenging & may not be what you expect before dropping your hard-earned cash on a gun.

I know it's a lot of work being in the support role and trying to stay with your squad and coordinating fire and keeping that
Base of fire down range at all times. In my mind the game that I did run my buddy's mk43 I loved it it's a lot of fun being one person and pinning a large group of people down and the fear you can strike into there eyes. The benefit to your squad is also huge having that base of fire around.

We might have to try to get together at a event some time so I can learn some tricks of the trade from some one who has been doing it for so long.

[Gator]

Play Battlefield 3, Max out the support class to ATLEAST Service star 5.

Then consider the role of a support gunna.

[drpepper475]

Play Battlefield 3, Max out the support class to ATLEAST Service star 5.

Then consider the role of a support gunna.

make sure you get some chest paddles to revive people haha