The Decline of AP.com

[Agent orange.]

Ok, I have a new suggestion, a new post, discussion, or something like that showing proper gun safety, and the do's and don'ts of handling even a airsoft firearm.

The reason for this, is that the airsoft game I attended yesterday at camp R&R, had a group of individuals who were young, excited, and having fun. But the problem was as follows:

One of there friends was at the range with a loaded AEG, and when he was done testing the gun, he pointed the gun (which was still a hot weapon, loaded) at the benches where me, my friend, and the group of people I'm talking about were sitting, he was just doing it as a joke mind you. I yelled at him that if he wants to point guns to mess around, take the mag out, to which he complied.

Then not even ten minutes later, the group of kids (who were around 16, 15 years old I think) loaded a cheap M14 SOCOM rifle looking thing. The one guy holding it, sat down, rested the mag which was in the gun, on the table, and began firing towards the gun range, which was very unsafe since there was about 15 meters about between the benches and the gun range. As he was firing, one of his friends, wanted a turn, and began to take it out of his hands as he was firing, to which a four second struggle broke out for the hot weapon... said weapon discharged, and hit me in the back from basically point blank. Luckily it was a cheap rifle, so no damage was done to me or anyone else.
I stood up from my seat and yelled at them from a couple feet away to knock it the shazaam off. Which they did.

I then after about eight to ten minutes after the incident, got a seasoned airsoft member (who I thought was a admin, but just really like to help out when he could) and told him about what happened, and to go over and talk to the kids, which straightened them out for the rest of the day.

Its unsafe situations like this, that make me uncomfortable going to airsoft sometimes. Now perhaps this is more of an admin thing, and event field staff problem, but either way, if that hot weapon, was one of those $200 and even more expensive M14 SOCOM rifles, someone could have been really hurt.

Thanks you shortbus for the help, it really did help.

[Darius137]

Ok, I have a new suggestion, a new post, discussion, or something like that showing proper gun safety, and the do's and don'ts of handling even a airsoft firearm.

The reason for this, is that the airsoft game I attended yesterday at camp R&R, had a group of individuals who were young, excited, and having fun. But the problem was as follows:

One of there friends was at the range with a loaded AEG, and when he was done testing the gun, he pointed the gun (which was still a hot weapon, loaded) at the benches where me, my friend, and the group of people I'm talking about were sitting, he was just doing it as a joke mind you. I yelled at him that if he wants to point guns to mess around, take the mag out, to which he complied.

Then not even ten minutes later, the group of kids (who were around 16, 15 years old I think) loaded a cheap M14 SOCOM rifle looking thing. The one guy holding it, sat down, rested the mag which was in the gun, on the table, and began firing towards the gun range, which was very unsafe since there was about 15 meters about between the benches and the gun range. As he was firing, one of his friends, wanted a turn, and began to take it out of his hands as he was firing, to which a four second struggle broke out for the hot weapon... said weapon discharged, and hit me in the back from basically point blank. Luckily it was a cheap rifle, so no damage was done to me or anyone else.
I stood up from my seat and yelled at them from a couple feet away to knock it the f**k off. Which they did.

I then after about eight to ten minutes after the incident, got a seasoned airsoft member (who I thought was a admin, but just really like to help out when he could) and told him about what happened, and to go over and talk to the kids, which straightened them out for the rest of the day.

Its unsafe situations like this, that make me uncomfortable going to airsoft sometimes. Now perhaps this is more of an admin thing, and event field staff problem, but either way, if that hot weapon, was one of those $200 and even more expensive M14 SOCOM rifles, someone could have been really hurt.

Thanks you shortbus for the help, it really did help.

Kids show up in summer months, go play, don't read anything. Putting effort into a safety briefing video is a waste of time. Your best bet to mitigate that issue is change the pre-game instructions.

[pulsipher]

AP is dead, and has been adequately replaced by facebook and reddit. theres no going back from that. Best thing that AP could do to remain relevant is to convert their content to a wiki then make a subreddit where those links can be expressed.

I logged in after 7 months and found almost all of the new topics posted are games, which is good, and ads and sponsor posts for more ads.

I've been around since 03 in some form or another and I can say there is nothing here that I cant get elsewhere in easier to digest content. The disdain from Jester's first response in this thread is why AP died.

[Shortbu]

AP.com is not dead. Your post proves that.

Oh snap!

[MetraDirty]

I think it'd be neat to have a Discord server for all airsofters in Oregon and maybe more. Have channels for general airsoft chat, broken guns, events and RSVP and an off topic chat. My music community and I have been using it since early this year and we're in love. Very customizable for a chat program so perhaps this could finally unite what I feel is a community fractured and segregated in little facebook cliques. Seriously, it's so faceless these days. I want to bring back the magic of meeting and THEN shooting NEW people that used to be so prevalent on this website..

I can help set it up and run it or someone else could, and others can get appropriate permissions to admin and make channels based on their own ideas/ambitions.

So is anyone interested? Questions?

[toobladink]

I think this forum is rather "not fully alive."

I've been part of it for a few days and the only new topics I've seen are spam ads for shoes. I'm honestly already so bored that I've decided to reply to a thread that hasn't seen a reply in two weeks.

[Junto]

Matt and a number of other older members have made it repeatedly clear that they don't care about advancing the site at all and that's fine. I made a similar plea on Facebook about two years back and got majorly shit on for having any faith in restoring this place to relevancy, specifically by admins and leadership. At some point, you just have to accept that the horse is dead. Pretty sure we've lodged the riding crop in its kidney by now from how hard we've been wailing on it. We could, instead, focus on building something newer. More adaptive, and more tailored to the player base that currently exists.

Trying to get activity and content back and thriving here is like trying to put on a concert in a mausoleum with the end goal of raising the dead.

[Jester316]

Buy the website from Matt, and revamp it. That's what it will take.


Last I heard, he was looking for $10k for the whole shebang.

[ClownBaby]

Screw it! I'm gonna sell My Grandma's bullshit necklace she hid from the Nazis.

[ZEUS]

Me likes airsoft. I play it. it b funz.

Maybe I should throw another OP.

OP OG...

[Norseman]

I hate face book, have no idea what Reddit is.....and absolutely love this old forum.

Call me old fashioned.

[Braddock]

AP is dead, and has been adequately replaced by facebook and reddit. theres no going back from that. Best thing that AP could do to remain relevant is to convert their content to a wiki then make a subreddit where those links can be expressed.

I logged in after 7 months and found almost all of the new topics posted are games, which is good, and ads and sponsor posts for more ads.

I've been around since 03 in some form or another and I can say there is nothing here that I cant get elsewhere in easier to digest content. The disdain from Jester's first response in this thread is why AP died.

Brandon, you are dead AP IS ALIVE!!!!

[Braddock]

Me likes airsoft. I play it. it b funz.

Maybe I should throw another OP.

OP OG...

OP: CRUSTY OLD MEN

[Braddock]

oh and McNair is a lazy sod

[Braddock]

Matt, needs to let AP go and put it into the hands of someone who has a vested interest in keeping the site going. It has been going downhill for a long time. Its not Mat's fault. We all got old, got married had kids and moved on with life. Heck when I first started playing I was just married and didn't have any kids. Now I am on my second marriage and have a daughter that is 11.
Times change.
Now, I spend most of my money and time shooting real guns. I still show up to the odd "Rick game" to say hi to old friends, but airsoft has lost its luster for me. It has change a lot from the "good old days"

Matt, let go and let someone else run the site. You don't have to give up ownership. Just let someone have a chance to resurrect the site. Whats the worse that can happen? It does out completely... That is the path the site is on now anyway.

I say give it a face lift and and hand it off to some one else run it.

just my 2 cents.