Time for an upgrade!

[Bircher]

so Ive had my dear old echo1 for to long, ive deicded to upgrade but i want an opinion on the style of weapon, not brand, but style. Ive narrowed it down to 3 options

M16A3 or M16A4- Ive always loved the m16, m4, 416, etc. and after someone let me hold their m16 and fire a few shots, i decided i wanted one, I already own an m4 so most of my mags would be adaptable.

Mp5- Ive always wanted an mp5 because they work great for CQC and outdoor skirms, and it is a very compact weapon, and the mags are light so you can carry quite a few

AK47 or AK74- The AK is a ledgendary weapon, and very adaptable for different enviroments(even in airsoft), And im finding less and less AKs on the feild so i want one to stand unique and stand out from the crowd.


Ps: is it possible to do a poll, i can not find the option to set up a poll.

[Hutch]

I would personally suggest an AK47. I think that M16s are too big for how they preform, and my old echo1 Mp5 broke easily, that and it shot to fast to play in any from of cqb. The AK47 (in my opinion) has great size and weight, and preforms like a much larger gun than it actually is. I borrowed an AK for resurrection 4, and now I am convinced to go buy one.

[Minerva]

tl;dr you want us to pick a gun for you? Only you can know what you are comfortable with. Why not keep your M16 and upgrade it and make a great gun rather then having many mediocre guns?

[Switchback]

Honestly, if you want the most effective for magazine efficiency, get an MP5. They are roughly 1/3rd the size of M4 magazines, and offer some cool and unique options. Everybody and their mother has M4's, so an MP5 will give you that unique feel.

[Minerva]

Honestly, if you want the most effective for magazine efficiency, get an MP5. They are roughly 1/3rd the size of M4 magazines, and offer some cool and unique options. Everybody and their mother has M4's, so an MP5 will give you that unique feel.

You have to take into account that the 229mm MP5 barrel isn't going to be able to reach out and touch people like a 509mm

[Bircher]

tl;dr you want us to pick a gun for you? Only you can know what you are comfortable with. Why not keep your M16 and upgrade it and make a great gun rather then having many mediocre guns?

I have considerd getting all new motor, gear box, wiring, prety much all new internals, and getting a crane stock and eotech(replica one) sight, the stock m4 stock(say that 3 times fast) on my gun is hard to aim with, but if i aim with my friends gun and use his crane stock, its nice and cozy and doesnt slip

[Limpy]

Switchback, I'm not too sure about that. MP5s are becoming more and more popular these days.

Magazine efficiency is what M4s do best, the amount of pouches out there for STANAGs is huge, and they're the easiest to get gear for. MP5s had short barrels, and are easily maneuverable, so they get shorter range (unless you know what you're doing with your barrel and hop up) and are less of a hassle. M4 mags are cheap, easy as hell to find, and are the most simple to reload. M4s themselves can also be very small and compact, and can be used in many different situations, just like MP5s, only MP5s can't really get longer.

MP5s are somewhat unique, but if you're trying to be a special snowflake, and they have a similar mag change technique as the AK, but they're nowhere near as useful an AK. With airsoft having that longer barrel can help a bit, but it isn't everything. An AK can have a full stock, a side folder, an underfolder, or no stock at all. They're the most comfortable and practical rifle to date, and I wouldn't recommend anything less if you're looking for something other than an M4 variant.

Remember a this, FPS =/= range and efficiency, so you can have a low shooting AK and use it for both outdoors and indoors. You should try and be efficient before you try to be different, though, so find a platform that works for you. I manage to be different by using Sig rifles, which are sort of like AKs but are more tacticool and modern. ICS and G&G make the best Sigs on the market, and I highly encourage them to be used if you're looking for something that's different. Sigs have sturdy folding stocks and come in many different shapes and sizes, such as the 550 (longest), 551 (second longest), 552 (same barrel length as 551 but with shorter handguard), and the 553 (short barrel, short handguard.) All of these platforms have folding stocks, and non-cumbersome rails that are built into the handguard, similar to what Magpul did with their MOE rails, so accessories can be mounted. They also offer the iron sights that HK uses, which are, in my opinion, some of the best. It's personal preference, but if you want an AK that is tactical and not ugly, a Sig is your best bet.

But if you DO want an AK, any AK with a folding stock will do you good as a CQC/field rifle, as they can be tuned to CQC but still shoot a distance.

[Bircher]

Yeah i saw your sigs, My friend KC and I were both sitting under that tent with you,Ryan, and the guy doing the "hey queerboy!" joke at res IV, so you may have seen my m4, i brought it over shortly before the event started...


Anyhow Im narrowing my options down to The AK and m16, but if i were to get an m16, it would be a KWA, but an AK, I have no idea what brand i would get.

[Limpy]

Well what do you want to be using your new platform for, exactly?

And no, don't get a KWA. If you get an M4 variant get a G&P or a CA, like everyone who's used them will tell you, they make the best M4s. CA's gearboxes are like tanks, just don't get the EBB ones. G&P gearboxes are built for speed, and also don't break, and the externals are impeccable.

[Minerva]

Yeah i saw your sigs, My friend KC and I were both sitting under that tent with you,Ryan, and the guy doing the "hey queerboy!" joke at res IV, so you may have seen my m4, i brought it over shortly before the event started...


Anyhow Im narrowing my options down to The AK and m16, but if i were to get an m16, it would be a KWA, but an AK, I have no idea what brand i would get.

Well I recently bought a Dboys and the thing is pretty solid. Really nice build quality for the price, especially if you don't mind doing internal work on it. If you do mind doing that, you could wait till KWA comes out with their AK if you prefer KWA as a brand

Well what do you want to be using your new platform for, exactly?

And no, don't get a KWA. If you get an M4 variant get a G&P or a CA, like everyone who's used them will tell you, they make the best M4s. CA's gearboxes are like tanks, just don't get the EBB ones. G&P gearboxes are built for speed, and also don't break, and the externals are impeccable.

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO SEES THE LIGHT

[Limpy]

I just learn from mistakes.

KWA is one of them.

[Jester316]

I'm going to argue with Limpy: KWA's are very well built. I was VERY skeptical on them, untill I opened Ogre's gear box a couple months ago. They are solid and just plain work. If you can get over the proprietary parts, 2 piece hop up system (can be a good or bad thing), and ugly externals, then I'd pick one up.

I think the best example of how good KWA M4/M16's are is Ogrejager. He knowingly uitlizes an 11.1 lipo, and blows through 10k rounds a game (routinely). He has had only a handful of issues, and they are issues that ANY gun would have when being run that hard.

[Minerva]

I'm going to argue with Limpy: KWA's are very well built. I was VERY skeptical on them, untill I opened Ogre's gear box a couple months ago. They are solid and just plain work. If you can get over the proprietary parts, 2 piece hop up system (can be a good or bad thing), and ugly externals, then I'd pick one up.

I think the best example of how good KWA M4/M16's are is Ogrejager. He knowingly uitlizes an 11.1 lipo, and blows through 10k rounds a game (routinely). He has had only a handful of issues, and they are issues that ANY gun would have when being run that hard.

Exactly. It's just like every other gun, but with a huge price tag to accompany it

[Limpy]

One time I'll have to take a look at Rob's, because I'd love to be proven wrong. I'll take your word for it that they work, seeing as you've made countless Dboys work better than stock G&Ps.

I've just seen too many shazaam up terribly to want to buy one. Their GBBs are different, they make super solid GBBs, but I just am wary of their AEGs.

[Seahawk]

Kwa is not that much more expensive, and good luck finding anything from CA for awhile, cybergun brought down the hammer on them hard.

here is a good thing to go by,

Internal Quality = KWA
external Quality = G&P, CA if you can find one.

I also want to add a word of warning regarding MP5's should you go that route, dont buy the G&G ones, overpriced because of trades and the gearbox is utter sh**.